LOVE saves the day in the end + other love threads
Cindy
cynnie36 at yahoo.com
Thu Aug 11 11:09:36 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 137251
>
> SSSusan wrote:
> > It's the
> > combination of these things -- love/compassion/concern for
others
> >+ the willingness to sacrifice which will be the (somehow!) fatal
> > combination for Voldy.
> >
> > Here's how I have always seen it playing out. In the end, Harry
> >will come, probably solo, to the understanding that he must
> >sacrifice himself. He will be willing to do so because of his
love
> >for (many)others -- **not** because of romantic love for Ginny,
but
> >because of deep, compassionate, altruistic agape love & concern
for
> >others.
> >
> > But here's the TWIST I'm hoping for. Harry will come to believe
> > this, and he will come to DECIDE that he will sacrifice himself,
> >thus ensuring (somehow! -- leaving this up to JKR's magical
> >creativity) Voldemort's demise. However, in the process of
> >offering himself up, Harry will (somehow!) discover, quite
> >surprisingly, that he does not NEED to die. The belief & the
> >willingness to have died will turn out to have been enough.
> >
>
> Geoff wrote:
> >This is why I objected a few days ago when someone wrote something
> >like "That's why I don't want Harry to win by using (ugh!) love."
I
> >pointed out that real love is the sort of love demonstrated by
> Christ
> >on the Cross - not love being crooned about but real, strong, deep
> >love unyielding in its aims to care for others and to put their
> needs
> >in front. "Greater love has no man...." etc."
>
Fascinating posts...especially when you consider the interview that
JKR revealed that anyone who read her books would know what faith
she practices (paraphrasing) which of course has been posted many
times here, is the Christian faith.
I've thought about it a lot, and while I don't feel Harry is a
Christ archetype, there are similarities. Looking through the lens
of the Bible, the greatest love of all is not love for those who
love you, not even the love a mother has for a child which is
unconditional and powerful. It is love for your enemies. Now that's
just not the absence of revenge towards them, that is deep, positive
regard and wanting the best for your enemies. It states quite
clearly that Christ was unique as he willingly laid down his life
for his enemies. (And please do not think I am using this thread to
evangelise, I am merely stating what I believe the Bible teaches and
how it relates to JKR's admission and the climax in book 7.)
To me, that would be the most powerful weapon in the MOM. Now how
JKR might go that way, I'm still thinking about that one!
Cindy
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