Dumbledore and Snape again.

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 137295

> Houyhnhnm:
> 
> When Snape arrives on the tower, he is faced with a weakened 
powerless
> Dumbledore, four mature Death Eaters, and one teenage Death Eater. 
> Had Snape refused to kill Dumbledore, there could have been only one
> outcome.  Snape would die.  Dumbledore would be killed by one of the
> other Death Eaters. Draco would either be killed on the spot or 
taken
> back to Voldemort (I suspect the DEs had orders to kill him on the
> spot if he failed.)  The DEs, including, Fenrir would be loosed upon
> the school and the casualties could have been much, much worse than
> they were.

Alla:

I guess my main problem is that we don't KNOW how much power DD had 
left in him. Who knows, if Snape would indeed do something to other 
DE, instead of killing Dumbledore, maybe it would have bought DD time 
to summon Fawkes at least, to do something.

Snape would die? Well, could be true, but that is I submit indeed 
would have been  the action of  the hero, because I am absolutely not 
convinced that Snape alive is more valuable for WW as whole then 
Dumbledore is. You know, "the only one Voldemort ever feared"..




Houyhnhnm:
> Dumbledore has to have known this and there's no way he would plead
> for his life at such a cost, not for a chance to spend more time 
with
> Harry, not to keep Snape from committing murder.  

Alla:

Well, since I disagree with what would have happened if Snape would 
not kill DD, I also disagree with this proposition.

Especially because I did not mean that DD would want to spend more 
time with Harry simply for fun of it, although I am sure that DD 
would have enjoyed it.

I meant that DD would have more time to teach Harry about horcrux 
mysteries and such, in other words to teach him how to get rid of 
Voldie, the action which would very much benefit WW as a whole.

So, I am submitting that YES, DD would want to spend more time with 
Harry, if for nothing else, for this purpose only.


Houyhnhnm:
I could buy DE!Snape
> or Out-For-Himself!Snape if Dumbledore had said nothing on the 
tower.
>    It's the "Severus ... please"  that is the incontravertible
> evidence for me that there has to be another explanation.


Alla:

Could be or it could be that begging to Snape "not throwing away his 
soul" IS the explanation.

In light of the fact that metaphor about the murder hurting your soul 
is going through book as one of major themes, it seems like at least 
one of the possibilities to me.


Just me of course,

Alla