Snape and Voldemort WAS:Dumbledore and Snape again

Cindy cynnie36 at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 12 01:48:31 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 137345

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Julia" <jolka55 at p...> wrote:
> >  > Julia:
> > > 
> > > It just occured to me so I thought I'll share it with you guys. 
> What 
> > > if Voldemort wouldn't be very pleased with Snape killing 
> Dumbledore? <SNIP>
 
> IMO when Snape says he THINKS Voldemort intends him to kill DD in 
> the end he expresses his hopes or some assumptions but it's clear to 
> me that he didn't get any orders from his master. That sounds like 
> Snape thinks that Voldemort thinks that Snape will do what is right 
> but without earlier orders...

I agree Julia, I've posted before that Snape will not get a hero's 
welcome, unless Draco, Snape, Narcissa and Bella all lie through their 
teeth, which is probably a moot point however, since the only reason 
for Wormtail to be at Spinner's End was to spy on Snape.

By killing DD, Snape sealed his fate with the OoTP, and by taking the 
vow, he has proved himself unloyal to Voldemort. I just fail to see 
where he gained any points except with Narcissa. It reminds me of the 
movie "A Few Good Men" where Tom Cruise gets Jack Nicholson to admit 
that nothing happens on his watch without his orders. Basically, no 
one questions or acts without the General's approval, including an 
incident that led to murder--men don't even breathe without 
permission. Snape tells Narcissa that Voldemort's word is law. Yet he 
contradicts himself and takes the vow.  How can he spin that to 
Voldemort?  "Sorry, your Dark One, I knew that you wanted Draco to be 
killed but Cissy was such a pathetic crying female that I just HAD to 
save her son from your evil plan."  

Draco believes that Snape has been trying to steal his thunder--and he 
wants to bring him down a notch so he..."won't be the Dark Lord's 
favorite anymore..."   But right before this, it appears that DD is 
giving Draco inside information:

pg 588 HBP AE

DD has just told Draco that Snape has been keeping watch over him on 
his orders:

"He hasn't been doing your orders, he promised my mother--"

"Of course, that is what he would tell you Draco, but--"

It appears to me that he was giving Draco information that would be 
damaging to OoTP!Snape! I have to wonder why...we have been led to 
assume that all through the books DD has been planning it to look like 
he has been taken in by Snape, while the reality is that Voldemort has 
supposedly been taken in. I really do not see why DD had to give that 
info to Draco even if he wanted to keep him from being a killer. Does 
the fact that DD is ready to tell a budding DE that Snape really works 
for him significant in regard to the theory that DD planned on Snape 
killing him?  Any thoughts out there? 






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