Trelawney's part in HBP: Planting info on the Tarot Deck?

mhbobbin mhbobbin at yahoo.com
Sat Aug 13 00:42:21 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 137463

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "mompowered" 
<dimoffamily at c...> wrote:
> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "hsvdine" <hsvdine at y...> 
wrote:
> > I'm new here and usually just read rather than write but no one 
else 
> > is bringing this up so I thought I would just ask for some 
opinions. 
> > It seems to me that JKR is very purposeful in what she throws in 
and 
> > likes to bury clues in the books so it strikes me as very 
important 
> > that Professor Trelawney is seen several times in HBP and seems 
more 
> > agitated each time. I don't quite buy the shes just a drunk line 
and 
> > it seems like there is more here. Anyone else have any 
thoughts....
> > 
> > hsvdine
> 
> I'm sorry, I may be going over my daily posts in this, but I just 
had 
> to say something.  I think instead of Sybil Trelawney, her name 
should 
> perhaps be Cassandra Trelawney.  Most people think of her as a 
fraud, 
> and she acts like a stereotypical "fortune teller" most of the 
time.  
> However, other than her two true prophecies, she has been right, 
in a 
> way, at times.  A couple that I can recall:  1)  The Grim in POA.  
Of 
> course, it wasn't the grim, it was Sirius, but she did "see" a 
big, 
> black dog.  2) The "lightning-struck tower" card reading she was 
doing 
> before the tower scene.  Maybe she is having a breakdown from all 
her 
> forecasts of doom while nobody takes her seriously, as well as her 
> feeling insulted to have Firenze also teaching her subject.
> 
> Cheryl

mhbobbin writes:

I remember that there was a good post about a year ago which 
analyzed all the prophecies Trelawney had made that had concluded 
and her rate of getting it about right was roughly 50%--at least as 
far as what she saw but not what she thought it meant.  As others 
have pointed out, she may well "see" with her inner eye but she gets 
the meaning wrong quite a bit. She does teach "divination"--
not "predictions" and that seems to imply to me that she is expected 
to discern meaning from what she sees--and Trelawney's weak on this 
part. But her inner eye does seem to work.

I think Trelawney's part in HBP is to introduce us to the Tarot Deck-
-planting information that JKR wants us to have for Book 7---there 
was a good post a couple days ago that talked about the four suits 
in the Tarot deck--cup, pentacle, sword and rod---that seems to 
relate to the four elements and the four founders, and as a poster 
has theorized --might lead to the missing horcrux.  

As for the card "lightning-stuck tower"--she senses that there's 
going to be something bad happening on a tower---and that's a pretty 
good prediction as it turns out... I assume this is a real card in 
the tarot deck---is there deeper meaning with that card?

mhbobbin







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