Last Judgement Love - Was (Re: No AKs )

[M.Clifford]

No: HPFGUIDX 137477

D:
I've been reading this thread with great interesting (great posts
Valky and Mari), it seems to me somehow, you're suggesting that this
ulimate 'love' thing in this series has to do with Harry and Snape, as
in all the hate and complicated conflicts that's been contribute to
these two's relationship throughout the entire series is all a build
up for this finale "agape love conquer evil" thing? The greatest love
power that involves Harry and Snape? That Harry and Snape is the heart
of it all? 

Valky:
I am glad you asked that, D, because I really do think I *should*
qualify my bringing of Snape into this correctly. 
You're right, it is not that Snape and Harry are the heart of this
adventure. What I meant by Snape being an extension of Harry was a lot
more general than it sounded. To qualify I shuld revisit that
statement and correct it to say that in my interpretation Snape is
*one* extension of Harry among many in the layers of the story who
follow their own sine wave of emotional growth. The reason that Snape
is a more fascinating one is that his position is a period lag (still
talking about sine waves) in a similar equation to Harry's. So to say,
that Snape, although on a /different wavelength (now incorrectly using
the sine analogy)/ to Harry parrallels Harry in this aspect of his
journey. The journey toward this greater Love. For Snape is a journey
of redemption and healing, for Harry it is a journey of liberation and
victory, and that is the key difference between them. I think, there
are different ends for each of them. But they walk a similar path,
Snape perhaps more slowly and in larger steps, than Harry. 
This is why I felt it was useful to refer to Snape's journey in
understanding Harry's. And I agree I made somewhat unqualified
statements in trying to establish that this was my end of doing so.
Thanks for asking. :D


D:
As oppose to...you know...the greatest ideal equal perfect love that
is Harry and Ginny? I think most people would expect/want the later.
The Snape's key involvement in Harry's "love power" in defeating LV
would greatly upset all those rabid Snape-haters and those who were
expecting Harry/Ginny (and his friends/dead parents), let alone Snape
being the key of it...there'd be outrage. Oh darn that
thunder-stealing Snape...after you stole LV thunder you have to... (I
would applaud JKR if she go that way, but I don't think she's that
unconventional).

Valky:
Yes I agree, and in fact I did post earlier on the *equal* Love
beteewn Harry and Ginny earlier up thread. I personally doubt, also,
that JKR would dissappoint half of fandom by not bringing the many
coloured rainbow of Love to the end scene and replacing it with the
man in black. That would be very anticlimax for too many of us.

Essentially I think that the Snape and Harry story will cross its
final path before the final confrontationbetween HP LV, but I have no
qualms with saying that it will be extraordinarily poignant and
meaningful, because the parrallel connection between Harry and Snape
has reached boiling point after HBP, I think. It would be just wrong
wrong wrong to take him off the stove now right before the the whistle
goes off.  metaphorically y'know. :D

Valky earlier:
> I still wonder if anyone else was piqued, like me, to read the 
> passage about Snape appearing to be in as much pain as the *Dog* 
> (Fang) stuck in the building behind them. I thought this was a clear 
> allusion to Sirius, myself, very very cleverly inserted into the 
> most profound moments between Snape and Harry of the whole book.

D:
I thought that was ridiculously obvious (along with the
parallelization between Snape and Harry in their scenes of
"sacrificing" DD under DD's demand). But hey what do
you know, reading the list and I'm surprise to find all these people
who's completely blind to these literary clues.

Valky:
Thankyou for replying to that, D. Yeah I thought it was brilliantly
obvious too, and I noticed it before I noticed the similarity between
the "hatred and repulsion" scenes. To me it seemed to suggest a link
between DD's death and Sirius' death also. I am definitely of the
opinion that to some end they both chose a higher purpose to help
Harry's quest, and that these scenes suggest that Snape has truly
joined them in that.


D:
And you're not the only one who notice that abnormal 'quantity" of
time Snape and Harry actually spent together in their boring and
uneventful detentions. Why would Snape do that? What's that about? (I
would have mark that as another waste of pages on mundane daily life
details that are totally non-matter that's been junking this book,
but then it's Snape...hmm...)

Valky:
I am only vaguely attached to the thoughts I posted on this. I think
from a philosophical standpoint it makes sense that Snape is facing
his demons in Harry and is all the more a brave man for choosing to do
so. But I am sure there is a very very literal way to interpret it
too, which would run a similar vein, I just haven't thought of it
myself. I am extremely open to suggestions about that.

Thanks for your reply D. :D