It's over, Snape is evil

[Cathy Drolet]

No: HPFGUIDX 137667

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "eggplant107" 
<eggplant107 at h...> wrote:
 > Yes, that is exactly what I would have Snape do. After Dumbledore's
> death Harry chased the Death Eaters and defeated several of them one
> on one, I have no doubt when he was healthy Dumbledore could have
> taken on all of them at once and I think Snape could too. You will
> note that when Snape entered the room all the other Death Eaters
> seemed terrified with him, and although Harry had little difficulty
> dealing with the other Death Eaters he had much more trouble with
> Snape.  


the big question is....could DD ever be healthy again?  And yes, the 
other DE's were terrified of Snape.  I think Snape could have taken 
out DD at any time during the 16 years at Hogwarts if he wanted to.  
Especially since DD trusted him so much - it would have been easy.  
That is why this act seems to simple for just to show that Snape is 
EVIL.

CathyD:
Well said, colebiancardi.  Several part of HBP made it, to me, just too plain that Snape is EVIL.  Way too plain. Like JKR was rubbing our face in it (to get all the Good!Snapers on side) all the while laughing up her sleeve.   Snape could have taken out DD anytime, I'm sure they were alone together many times: when Snape was telling DD the Dark Mark on his arm was returning; when, as someone else just said, Snape was *healing* him from the horcrux curse, during the argument by the forbidden forest, during all the times Snape begged for the DADA job.

 > I never liked Snape and was always a bit mystified why so many felt
> that deep down he's really just a sweetheart, 

I don't think ANYONE thinks or even stated that Snape was a 
sweetheart, deep down inside.  I think we can all agree that he is a 
sadistic bastard.  Jeez.....  I don't know where you are getting the 
impression that the folks that believe in Good!Snape think he is a 
big, fluffy bunny under that greasy exterior - LOL.

CathyD:
Well, it's quite obvious, Eggplant, that you never liked Snape and still don't, however...
I have to agree with colebiancardi again.  I've never seen a Good!Snape fan say Snape is a sweetheart (pussycat, in Eggplant's words).  I certainly don't think he is.  He's a nasty, awful bit of work...if you only consider the way he treats students.  He's a great ball of cat gack under the sofa.  I think Snape's capacity for evil could make Voldemort blush.  However, he turned his back on that capacity when he joined the Order of the Phoenix, back there sometime before the Potters were murdered.  Back then when he fully redeemed himself to Dumbledore through an act that only they (and JKR) yet know.

>but before HBP JKR could
> perhaps morphed him into a good guy, or at least into a less
> despicable character; but now JKR has burned her bridges as far as
> Snape is concerned. After what we saw in HBP if she tries to turn
> Snape into a good guy the last book in the Potter series will be a
> disaster because killing Dumbledore is quite simply unforgivable.  
>

Deep-undercover spies are often depicted as *bad* or not good.  But 
they DO work for the good team.  I believe that is Snape - he isn't a 
good man, but he does work for the good team.  That is his strength.  
I don't think anyone is under the illusion that Snape will turn into 
a Dumbledore-like character in book 7 - in fact, I believe Snape will 
die in book 7 - but in a martyr-like way - saving either Draco or 
paving the way for Harry to defeat Voldemort.  

CathyD:
Yes, I'm expecting Snape's demise in book 7 as well, but not before Harry realizes what Snape truly is: Dumbledore's man.  

"He isn't a good man, but he does work for the good team"... wow, an excellent reason for being so incensed that Harry called him a coward.  Snape turned from evil to join Dumbledore.  Quite brave, really, knowing what LV would do to him when he found out.  And Dumbledore threw him right back in with the serpents.  Quite brave, again, knowing that your every word, every thought, every move had to be calculated and guarded.  


BTW, to those of you who like the 'fluffy bunny' term....I have now spewed tea on my computer twice....  Sheesh! 

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