[HPforGrownups] Re: Harry is Not a Horcrux or Maybe he is...

[Kathryn Jones]

No: HPFGUIDX 137766

vmonte wrote:
> Uk Ed COS p245
> "Unless I'm much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to
> you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to
> do, I'm sure "
> "Voldemort put a bit of himself in me?" Harry said thunderstruck.
> "It certainly seems so."
    vmonte

Kathy writes:
    I hate it when Dumbledore says "it certainly seems so." That's 
exactly what he said when McGonagal asked him if Voldemort was really 
gone. It means that Dumbledore is not telling the whole story. I take it 
to mean that "yes, it looks like he transferred some of his powers to 
you, but I'm thinking it was part of his soul, but I'm not really sure 
yet, I'll let you know." Even Snape starts doing it in Ootp. When Harry 
asked if Voldemort knew he was there inside the snake, Snape replies,"It 
seems so."
KJ

> UK Ed HBP p473
> "I am sure that he was intending to make his final Horcrux with your
> death. As we know, he failed."
   vmonte

Kathy writes:
     I take this to be more Dumbledore double talk. Voldemort failed to 
make his final horcrux as a result of Harry's death. Voldemort failed to 
kill him. To me, this doesn't mean that a piece of Voldemort's soul did 
not end up in Harry. It might not be an actual horcrux, but a difference 
which makes no difference, is no difference. It has to be removed, 
hopefully, or else..."neither can live while the other survives"
KJ

> IMO Dumbledore knows more than me about Voldemort's Horcruxes, and
> as far as I'm concerned, if DD says it failed, it failed. I really,
> really, really don't think Harry is one. However, he definitely has
> some of Voldemort's powers in him and therein lies the mystery of
> GH. I was trying to find a quote from one of JKR's interviews where
> she says that Lily did not cast a spell at GH when she died, all she
> did was stand in front of Harry, but something about the way she did
> it was unique. Unfortunately I couldn't find it, maybe someone can
> point us in the right direction, I think it was one of the
> interviews after HBP. Hence, I don't think it was anything Lily did.
> It was something that happened when Voldemort did whatever he did
> and I think it is linked to the scar on Harry's forehead which I
> think marked Harry as his equal (I've got a potion brewing on that
> one and may post something in the next couple of days).
   vmonte

Kathy writes:
     From my understanding of the interview, it was her making the 
choice to protect Harry. Voldemort told her to stand aside. He did not 
intend to kill her for some reason. She refused the chance to live and 
remained in front of Harry. JKR said that James also gave his life for 
Harry but that there was no choice involved. He just bunged into the 
middle of it and was given no choice.
KJ

> I don't really know, but something is in Harry. And it speaks
> parceltongue.

> Vivian :)

Kathy writes:
    It also caused Dumbledore's little silver machine to spit out one 
snake which then split into two separate parts. That did not look good 
to me. Dumbledore checked to make sure that they were still separate. It 
looks even worse that Salazar spoke parceltongue, all the Gaunts spoke 
it, direct line down is Voldemort, who speaks it, and then there is 
Harry. What really bothers me is that Dumbledore offers to hide Draco, 
make him and his mother look as if they have been killed and put them in 
a safe place where they would not be found. Why could Dumbledore not 
have done that for Harry? We know that the prophesy is only true because 
Voldemort makes it true.  If he had thought that Harry died in the house 
at GH, he would not have continued after Harry. Would he??
KJ