Harry is Not a Horcrux or Maybe he is...
saraquel_omphale
saraquel_omphale at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 16 13:15:14 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 137788
> Finwitch wrote:
> > So yes, I'd say that, a piece of Voldemort's soul was within
Harry,
> > and it communicated with Harry's soul... However, when Voldemort
> > seemingly 'attempted to possess' Harry, maybe he that piece of
his
> > soul joined the rest of him?
>
> Valky:
> I really think you're on to something there Finwitch.
Ok, Pheonix!Finwitch/Valky I'm hanging onto your tail here as you
take flight, but just before we hit orbit I want to throw in an
anchor When I responded to Vivian's post I quoted two pieces of
cannon, Finwitch only snipped the second quote and Chinese whispers
like, ISTM something has got lost in the telling :-)
Here's the first one again:
Uk Ed COS p245
"Unless I'm much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to
you the night he gave you that scar. Not something he intended to
do, I'm sure
"
"Voldemort put a bit of himself in me?" Harry said thunderstruck.
"It certainly seems so."
DD seems to think that what was transferred to Harry was Voldemort's
*powers* not a bit of his soul. Now I am presuming that both
wizards and muggles both have souls. There is no cannon evidence to
support this, but I feel reasonably confident that it is so. The
difference between muggles and witches (let's have gender balances
here) is their magical ability their powers. It therefore seems
to me that magical powers are a separate entity to the soul. When
Voldemort loses his body, he says that he still had his powers, (GoF
graveyard scene) as though he speculated that he could have been in
that situation without his powers. (Although I well realise that you
could make an argument that if powers are a soul-add-on then of
course he would still have them. But maybe that's an argument for
another post, I'll make this point first.)
I think DD was right on both counts Voldemort transferred his
*powers* and he failed to make Harry into a Horcrux accidental or
otherwise. (Lost count of the times I've said Harry is *not* a
Horcrux, and for someone who has a bed, sofa and kitchen sink on the
fence, that's something.)
This is something I've been thinking about but wasn't going to post
yet, but now I've started, as they say, I'll continue.
I think that Harry has Voldemort's powers so that they are on an
*equal* footing. Yes, this is what I think it means when the
prophecy says mark him as his equal. I think the reason for this
is thematic, and not to do with destroying Horcruxes, or making
complications for the final confrontation. IMO, it's much more
about choices. Harry and Voldemort have the same resources to use,
the important thing is that they choose to use them differently.
Also, having those particular powers, which so far I think consist
of parceltongue, legilimency and possession (thank you to the
unnamed person who pointed out the last one to me perhaps it was
you Valky?) means that Harry has ideal powers to be tempted to the
dark side, and IMO JKR is ratcheting it up on that score. Just in
case your puzzled, we all know Harry is a parceltongue, I posted
recently on Harry being a natural legilimens, and it wouldn't
surprise me if possession features in the final showdown watch
this space for ideas on that.
The question I am still turning over in my mind is exactly how do
powers manifest and where do those powers reside in the body? I'm
toying with the idea that they are in your hands hence, the
reference to "at the hand of the other" in the prophecy and DD only
offering two fingers of his left hand for destroying a Horcrux and
the fact that his dead right hand would mean his powers were
diminished, as we were told they were.
Finwitch wrote:
> > You see -- that was Harry's childhood 'friend', Tom Riddle.
(that
> > deja vu)... an invisible friend, too.
Valky wrote:
>Tom Riddle, a name that was familiar to Harry, as though it was
> a childhood friend he'd forgotten,
I think that having something as personal as Voldemort's special
powers would be equally as effective for your arguments about the
familiarity of Tom Riddle.
I've now anchored myself, I'm not sure if I'm just left holding a
bunch of tail feathers, or whether you're hovering round me. I look
forward to finding out, Finwitch and Valky.
Thanks for your enthusiasm, it never fails but to bring a smile to
my face!
Saraquel
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