Have I just transfigured out the Horcrux!Locket?

[saraquel_omphale]

No: HPFGUIDX 138040

Jujube wrote:
>On a personal note, I do, of course, regret that you felt any sort 
>of personal (of you) v. impersonal (of ideas) criticism in any of my
>posts; none was of course intended and I apologize for any 
>discomfort you felt. At the same time, I must also add that I feel 
>you perhaps have done me a disservice by coloring my comments with 
>that lens.

Saraquel:
Hi Jujube.  Thank you for your post and your interpretation and 
understanding of mine. I did always feel that your intentions were 
not personally critical, I also apologise for any discomfort that my 
comments gave you.  Having said that, I trust that there is mutual 
respect and personally feel that the conversation is now finished: I 
hope you agree. 

So to business:

I think you made a good case for Sirius being wrong, and I was aware 
that a case could be made (hence my comment about exactly that) but 
I wasn't going to do my theory-detractors work for them! If the cave 
problem can be solved, it might well work out the way you have 
described. Although, I must admit, the more I argue for the 
transfigured Horcrux theory, the more fond of it I feel, and that it 
could be a real possibility.  

Kizor has just posted something along the same lines (He emailed me 
to say that when he posted it he wasn't aware of my posts) so 
obviously the idea is out there.  This is a quote from an answer to 
his post by Richard

>This is, I think, very appropriate, as if it really is a horcrux,
>and the person who finds it is taken in by the ruse, the World is
>left with a surviving horcrux, and thus a surviving little lord
>Voldemort (little thanks to the diminished soul, spread about and
>partially destroyed).

I've also had a thought something along these lines, but with a 
different theory. Harry being in the situation where he thinks he 
can't find the locket!horcrux, could ratchet up the tension quite a 
lot.  Now, imagine him being forced to meet Voldemort for the final 
showdown, knowing he hasn't destroyed the locket!horcrux, but having 
it in his pocket.  He's convinced he's going to fail, but actually 
succeeds
.  Yes, Jujube, I can see your frown, I agree, I will 
speculate no more :-) 

Now to the Snape angle.  

Jujube wrote:
>It's not a stretch to imagine that a Snape interested in what he
>could gain for himself would work with a DE (here using the DE to 
>his own aims), to do the same thing.
>
>I'm not sure how it would play out for Evil Snape--but I've also not
>taken that view of him so I haven't really put much effort into
>reading the books that way.

Saraquel:
Funnily enough, I was thinking about this last night, whilst 
responding to another post and wrote this

>Any theory that
>puts Snape in the Cave, really has to do a LOT of explaining, and we
>have OFH!ESE!Snape for sure. 

You have probably picked up the thread, it starts with this one: 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/137926 and there 
are some replies which start to address these issues.

The reason why I say that this would give us, out for himself, ever 
so evil Snape is because 
1) He steals the horcrux, either intending to destroy it or to 
provide himself with some leverage over Voldemort. Both reasons 
giving us, Snape hates Voldemort.
2) He has failed to tell DD about his trip to the cave and the fact 
that he is in possession of, or has destroyed one of Voldemort's 
horcruxes.

Evil all round really!

I am assuming of course, that Regulus was used by Snape and not the 
other way round – that would be totally OOC.


Jujube wrote:
>But not every detail, or perceived omission of detail, in the book 
>is significant. The trick to figuring out what will happen in book 7
>is to figure out just which details are significant. To seize on the
>ones which are not, on the pretext that every thing must mean
>something, is, IMO, as detrimental as deciding that everything in 
>the book is literally as it seems and there is no puzzle to be put
>together.

I take your point about the suggestion that DD does not reject the 
potion as not Voldemort's. However, I do think that JKR has 
deliberately made DD make comments on the nature of the obstacles in 
the cave to indicate that all is not as it seems. You may not agree, 
but I think they are significant. Whether, of course, the not-as-it-
seems is a transfigured horcrux, a pointer to Snape's involvement, 
or some other reason yet to be discovered (or not as the case may 
be) is at the heart of our discussion.

Jujube wrote:
>I am not aware of the requirement that states that in order to 
>engage in conversation about a theory offered to the list, one must 
>have a fully-fledged theory in the wings waiting to replace it. 
>Indeed, although my theories about the last unidentified Horcrux 
>and the person who does magic late in life were questioned, I never 
>required that the person questioning me be able to float a full-
>fledged theory as an entrance fee. I'm happy to have my theories 
>questioned--it's the only way for me to think about what could be 
>wrong and therefore allows me the opportunity to revise them 
>accordingly.

Saraquel:
That was just me being cheeky, Jujube. I look forward to any 
thoughts that you do have about the cave, though.

Amicalement

Saraquel
Who is going to have to take a break for a while, RL is calling in 
the form of finding a job and earning some money!!