Lockets (Was Re: The magically refilling Pensieve)

cat_kind cat_kind at yahoo.com
Fri Aug 19 11:19:28 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 138071

> Valky:
> Mind if I jump in here, catkind, because your line of thought here
> brings me right back to the thoughts I osted earlier about the 
potion
> in the Basin. 
> In case you missed it, I deduced on some premise of how the 
protection
> *worked* towards LV's ends, that the act of drinking the potion was
> the extraction of information that DD informed Harry, that LV would
> probably have in place there. I proposed that the potion does
> legilimency on the drinker.
> 
> I can't really answer all your questions, but it seems to me that
> R.A.B  *was* one of Voldies servants betraying him. 
>
> Why this person bothers to put in a fake, is possibly because this
> person somehow *knows* how this protection works. You are right,
> R.A.B. knows something we do not, of that I am sure. But one 
answer I
> would propose is that the basin, as a magical object, could be 
tricked
> after it had been conquered. (Lets think Triwizard cup tricked by
> Crouch to have an extra name come out of it). So R.A.B. drinks it 
up,
> ewww, gets real sick, but manages to survive, then he puts a fake 
into
> the basin and tricks the basin into thinking that he/she didn't get
> the real one. So the basin resets its protections as though he/she 
had
> just died.
> 
> Skipping along into pure speculation, I am supposing that R.A.B. 
had
> some idea, what Voldie would do when he came to check his basin, so
> was probably a DE. Either Voldie would look in and believe nothing 
had
> happened. Or if he did notice something had happened, then he would
> take a look at the legilimensed memories in the basin. The memories
> would serve to remind him of the horror he put R.A.B. through in 
order
> to make him want to betray, then he would retrieve the fake locket 
and
> look inside to find the note which clearly is meant to get LV 
pretty
> p****d if he ever reads it. Especially the bit where R.A.B says
> _dying_ is so *small* compared to getting payback on you, yer old
> fart.. muwahahahah 
> 
> So in conclusion, my thoughts are that this R.A.B. person knows a 
fair
> bit before he goes there and most of what he does can be put to the
> motive that he's out for some pretty awful vengeance on LV if he 
can
> get it. As for him going to die, It's seems like R.A.B. thinks 
that is
> a small price to pay in order to get back at Voldie. My guess 
Voldie
> did something bleedin *horrid* to him/her. It's *got* to be a DE he
> treats them worse than *anyone*. 
> 
> The thing that's catching my eye tonight is R.A.B.'s arrogance in 
the
> face of death. I mean, this person is saying, my revenge for what
> you've done that's worth dying for.. I am *so* prepared to take
> whatever comes to in consequence for this vengeance.. Isn't it 
weird
> how we've seen that streak before in Sirius, and these initials 
look
> like his brother's. 

catkind: Hi Valky! I like this theory, which I had missed (along 
with everything else round here - I can't keep up at all at the mo). 
So perhaps you've answered this already somewhere...

I'm absolutely with you on RAB=Regulus, we have blatantly been 
hinted at. 

So, in Voldemort's ideal situation, someone drinks some of the 
potion then falls down delirious, dying of thirst, so dives 
headfirst into the lake and gets eaten by the Inferi, or turned into 
one.  Meanwhile the remainder of the potion has stored his memories 
of why he was there, and replenished itself.

RAB comes along and due to his inside knowledge is somehow able to 
survive drinking the potion in one piece(ish), or at least sane 
enough to switch lockets and fool the basin. This still seems to 
make RAB rather powerful, doesn't it? If it's just secret knowledge 
that's necessary to get at the locket, I can hardly imagine even 
LV's nearest and dearest would be in on the secret. 

But are you saying DD was then seeing the previously stored 
thoughts?  Shouldn't the potion then be storing *his* reasons for 
being there? Or is the enchantment muddled up by now?

catkind 







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