[HPforGrownups] Re: The One who Can defeat the Dark lord

[Kathryn Jones]

No: HPFGUIDX 138275

strawberryshaunie wrote:

> I agree that Voldemort wouldn't fully understand the connection
> between himself and Harry, but he seemed to have made up his mind in
> the graveyard scene in GoF that Harry's blood is the only thing
> valuable or special about him, and wanted to kill him in front of all
> his DE's to prove the point. I was under the impression that a horcrux
> is something rather complicated to create, killing someone is an
> essential step, and certainly injures/tears the soul, but doesn't
> necessarily automatically create a horcrux (I doubt Pettigrew or
> Crouch junior has/had any). Also, Voldemort was, as you say, taken by
> surprise the night he first attacked Harry, and was left relatively
> helpless (his only ability left was to possess other living beings).
> How could he have constructed a horcrux in that state? (I'm also
> rather curois about what happened to Voldemort's wand that night, how
> did he get it back, I wonder...) Did he not flee after losing his
> body? I think Voldemort has wanted Harry saved for himself because he
> wants to destroy his only true threat (other than DD) and exact
> revenge upon the person he would see as responsible for what he went
> through that Hallowe'en night, not because he wants to study Harry any
> further (even 16 year old Tom Riddle, back in CoS, concluded that
> Harry was 'nothing special' just lucky, and decided to dispose of him
> accordingly).
> After all that, I have to admit it seems to fit that Harry would be
> somehow connected to Voldemort in a way that would end up in his
> eventual self-sacrifice. I'm just having a hard time seeing how Harry
> can be a horcrux, specifically.
   strawberryshaunie

Kathy writes:
      I think, at first, Voldemort thought that it was the blood 
protection that screwed up his curse. Which it did, really. I think, 
personally, not to mean that I'm right, necessarily, that the force of 
the rebound curse caused something to mark Harry's forehead. JKR let us 
think that it was caused by the curse itself, or a blast from the house 
wreckage, perhaps, but there is no doubt that Harry is sharing some part 
of Voldemort. Since we're are being told about horcruxes, I am assuming 
that this will go somewhere. No one knows what happens when a soul is 
split so many times, no one knows what the effects would be in a living 
horcrux, and no one knows what the effects might be to a rebound killing 
curse because it has never happened. Making a horcrux seems to consist 
of a spell that encases the soul part after it has already been split. 
Voldemort had split his soul at least twice at GH before trying to kill 
Harry. I don't think he caused a horcrux intentionally. I think it was a 
fluke. I also think that the mere fact of carrying the last piece of 
soul, other than the one in Voldemort, is what gives Harry "the power to 
vanquish the Dark Lord." The scar "marks him as Voldemort's equal." If 
he is a horcrux, he is his equal. In some ways he is Voldemort. He 
appears to have the ability to prevent Voldemort from possessing him 
fully because of the love of his friends, and if he sacrificed himself 
to protect his friends, it would be the final piece of Voldemort 
destroyed. He would then be gone for good. Voldemort might be curious 
about Harry, but he believes that the situation has been neutralized by 
the sharing of blood. I think Snape has several reasons for being sent 
to Voldemort. He must keep him distracted from Harry by convincing 
Voldemort that he has no special abilities, has no particular power and 
is just lucky, attempt to discover the locations of Voldemort's 
horcruxes, and at the end either kill Voldemort, if Harry doesn't, or 
kill Harry, if Voldemort doesn't. I'm thinking that either Ron or 
Hermione will kill Snape, or at the moment of Voldemort's true death, 
all of the Death Eaters that are marked will be killed by their marks. I 
think that Snape is in place as an assassin. I do not think that he will 
ever get an Order of Merlin. At any rate, that is how I figure it. I 
haven't seen too many theories on how it will all end yet.
Anybody else want to take a guess as to how the plot winds up in book 7??
KJ