[HPforGrownups] Re: I KNOW WHAT SNAPE WANTS!

[Kathryn Jones]

No: HPFGUIDX 138394

Cathy Drolet wrote:

> CathyD:


> "Unless I'm much mistaken, he transferred some of his own powers to you 
> the night he gave you that scar.  *Not something he intended to do*, I'm 
> sure --" The "It certainly seems so" is indicating response to what he 
> already said.  The bit of himself being some of his powers not a piece 
> of his soul.  Certainly Dumbledore would have querried this to bits 
> before he decided on Nagini being the 6th Horcrux? The soul has to be 
> split by murder to make a Horcrux, the 'significant' murder that night 
> was going to be Harry's to make the final Horcrux.  LV's soul wasn't 
> split because he didn't kill Harry.  Yes, he'd already killed Lily and 
> James but saying that LV made Harry into a Horcrux with their death(s) 
> and then was going to kill him, just doesn't work, IMO.
   CathyD

Kathy writes:
    In OotP Dumbledore admitted to Harry that he had not told him the 
whole truth, and really, still hasn't. Any time Dumbledore says "It 
certainly seems so" should cause alarm bells to go off. I think,too, 
that a horcrux does not need to be made immediately following a death. 
Once a death has occurred, the split is made, and it seems to me that 
the spell-casting to encase the soul piece separately can be done any 
time. He had no intention to make Harry a horcrux. He intended to kill 
him. No spell was cast to encase the spell in Harry, so he might not be 
an actual horcrux, but I beleive that the force of the rebound spell 
forced one of the split pieces into Harry.
KJ

> CathyD
> If Harry is a Horcrux, why is Voldemort so intent on having him dead? He 
> wanted Quirrell to kill Harry to acquire the Philosopher's Stone.  
> Diary!Riddle wanted Harry dead.  GoF's graveyard scene speaks for 
> itself.  LV possessing Harry in the Atrium at the MoM so that Dumbledore 
> would kill Harry in an attempt to kill LV, is also, LV wanting Harry 
> dead. 
   CathyD

Kathy writes:
   I don't think that Voldemort has any idea what happened. Everything 
that occurred at Godric's Hollow was unique. He has no logical basis on 
which to hazard a guess. All he has is the prophesy part that says Harry 
has the power to vanquish him. He wants him dead for this reason.
KJ


   CathyD
> LV wouldn't want Harry dead if he is a Horcrux...that would be 
> destroying himself and making himself that much more vulnerable, IMO, 
> not stronger.  If, in killing Harry, LV recovered the piece of his soul 
> that was inside a Horcrux!Harry, he would still be "a mortal man with a 
> maimed and diminished soul."  LV knows that if he recovers those pieces 
> of soul (if they can be recovered) he will no longer be 'immortal'...he 
> doesn't want that, he's too afraid of death.
   CathyD

Kathy writes:
   I suspect that even if Voldemort figures out that one of his pieces 
of soul went into Harry, he is still going to want him dead and out of 
his way. He knows that he has several other horcruxes available to 
protect his immortality. Leaving Harry alive would be too much of a risk.
KJ