It's over, Snape is evil (was: Dumbledore and Snape again)

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 138544

Eggplant:
> 
> So you're saying an Unbreakable Vow can be broken, you just need to
> fool it. Hmm, sounds like it needs a name change.

Pippin:
I've taken a solemn vow and I've  kept it for 27
years. It doesn't have any 'if's or 'seems'es  in it. In fact, I
don't think I've ever heard an RL solemn vow that did. 'Love, 
honor and cherish if it seems necessary?'   I don't think so!

Someone was awfully interested in seeing that Snape had an 
escape route, or thought he had one.

Eggplant:
> 
> I like to think Harry is smarter than that. Snape is one of the very
> few people on earth that knows about the prophesy, so although he
> tells Harry and anybody else that will listen that he is of no
> importance we now know he can't really believe that. Snape saved
> Harry's life once and I have no doubt he'd do it again, at least
until Harry kills Voldemort. And then it's a different story.

Pippin:
Um, if it's so important to Snape that Voldemort be destroyed, 
and you think the chances of  that are vastly
diminished without Dumbledore, then why would Evil!Snape
take the vow?

Eggplant: 
> And I hope Harry never distrusts the evidence of his eyes, whatever
> tale Snape spins, Harry saw what he saw that night in the Astronomy
> Tower. 

Pippin:
If Harry believes his eyes, he will see numerous anomalies, same as
the rest of us. You can invent explanations for them that don't
involve innocent!Snape, but Harry hasn't bothered to do that. He isn't
believing his eyes, he's only believing his prejudice.

Eggplant:
> One the other hand Evil Snape theories are a model of consistency
and mental contortions and back flips are not necessary.

Pippin:
Except to explain the anomalies around the body and the time of 
death, the argument  Hagrid overheard, the numerous other times 
Snape has openly disagreed with Dumbledore, and JKR's statement that 
Snape's patronus  (which The Order knows) would give too much away.
 
Pippin:
> > Harry couldn't be told about this
> > because his mind is open to
> > Voldemort.

Eggplant:
> If Harry for whatever reason Harry could not be told of the plan
then that alone would be enough to rule it out if Dumbledore is as
wise as we are led to believe, even if it didn't have other holes
large
enough to sail a supertanker through. Because after witnessing 
Dumbledore's murder Harry will not rest until Snape is dead or he is.
> 

Pippin:
I  happen to think Harry is smarter than that. Dumbledore knows that
he was able to understand that Sirius hadn't betrayed his parents, 
despite the evidence of many witnesses. 

If Harry  can't accept that his eyes can be deceived, or that
his previous judgements might be mistaken,  or that anger and hatred
can be misleading, he really doesn't deserve to be called a hero. 


Pippin