Is Snape responsible for making Harry an Orphan/ Redemption for Snape.

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 23 22:13:23 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 138575

> Alla:
> Yes, but "but for Snape's actions" Voldemort would have never 
learned about prophecy in the first place, no? Voldemort made 
prophecy self fulfilling, but if he did not know about it, he would 
not have acted in the first place, IMO.
> 
> Juli:
> You are right, but I still don't blame Snape for the Potters' 
death, he did a little thing (he told a prophesy), but from there 
things started to get much more bigger. Snape is to blame for staring 
this chain of events, not for every single event. IMO


Alla:

I guess I just don't see how Snape could expect anything else but 
death to happen to people described in the prophecy. I can call Snape 
many names, but he is definitely not stupid and his master is sure 
not a merciful type.

I consider "telling about Prophecy" to be huge thing, so huge in act 
that even if we will learn that Snape is good, I don't think he would 
ever be able to repay Harry for  this action of his.


> Juli:
> It doesn't cancel it, but it decreases a bit. He made a mistake, he 
tried to make things right but he couldn't do it. He tried real hard 
to save the Potters (after he was the entire reason they were in 
danger), but he didn't succeed, so is the effort less worthy? Not in 
my book.

Alla:

The effort is worthy, I agree, but if it was him, I just don't see it 
as any kind of heroic action - just trying to correct what he did 
wrong in the first place.



Rachel Ellington wrote:
> In a JKR interview from 1999 Oct 12th, a comment is posed to her 
that Snape has a redemptive quality. JKR says she is stunned and the 
person should read Book 7 to see why she is so stunned.  This may put 
a damper on the ESE! camp.
> http://www.quick-quote-quill.org/articles/1999/1099-
connectiontransc.html
> 

Alla:
Hmmm, it may or it may sterngthen it. JKR specifically says here that 
you will have to read book 7 to understand, right?

So, I can interpret it as if Snape's redemption is NOT occurred yet. 
Therefore it would not preclude him from being ESE or our for himself 
and  redeeming himself somehow ( not fully, but somehow) by dying for 
Harry or something like that.

I realised how I want the confrontation between Harry and Snape to 
play out. I mean I don't know  about the details, but I would love it 
to mirror " Dumbledore and Draco confrontation scene" somehow.

Say Snape is holding Harry at the wand's length at one point in time 
and does hesitate to kill him for some reason ( Lily's eyes,or 
something like that)

I want Harry to tell him " It is not your mercy that matters, it is 
mine"

We know that JKR may play off the lines from previous books ( 
Slughorn does tell Harry " Ten points from Gryffindor for sheer 
cheek" , which is playing on Snape line from the first lesson, right?

So, YES, that kind of scene I would love to see.


If Snape is completely ESE at the end,then of course I want him dead.

JMO,

Alla,

who realises that she needs to shut up for today.






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