Snape didn't kill DD with AK!! And here's the evidence...
mt3t3l1
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Wed Aug 24 13:33:28 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 138629
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "clarinut76" <clarinut76 at y...>
wrote:
> > > Merrylinks writes:
> > "An obvious question is, how can you verbalize one spell but cast
> > another spell nonverbally? JKR may give us a foreshadowing of
this
> > when Harry *hears* the word "Expelliarmus" but *experiences* a
> > Freezing Charm. Throughout the rest of the scene, Harry continues
to
> > hold his wand, so the Expelliarmus did not work on him. However,
he
> > does remain rigid and immobile--the result of a successful
nonverbal
> > Petrificus Totalus cast by Dumbledore."
>
> I thought that it was Malfoy who cast the Expelliarmus? HBP AE pg
> 584 "The door burst open and somebody erupted through it and
> shouted, "Expelliarmus!" Then, further down, "Then, by the light
of
> the Mark, he saw Dumbledore's wand flying in an arc over the edge
of
> the ramparts and understood...Dumbledore had wordlessly immobilized
> Harry, and the second he had taken to perform the spell had cost
him
> the chance of defending himself."
That's correct. The example was meant to show that the spell you hear
may not be the one you experience.
On another branch of this thread Valky said, "I'd like to pass the
genius title around the boards to the other keen-eyed readers but I'm
not sure I can remember everyone who has contributed to finding those
inconsistencies with the AK. The faked AK is based on the two spells
at once thing I unearthed from the end of OOtP battle between DD and
LV, so I'll hang on to the "g" or the "e" ;D "
I checked out the battle in the Ministry of Magic and, sure enough, I
found this:
Dumbledore brandished his wand in one, long, fluid movement -- the
snake, which had been an instant from sinking its fangs into him,
flew high into the air and vanished in a wisp of dark smoke; the
water in the pool rose up and covered Voldemort like a cocoon of
molten glass --
That example shows two spells cast successfully at the same time. So,
while we don't have a perfect parallel to an *unsuccessful verbal
spell* cast simultaneously with a *successful nonverbal spell*, all
done *by the same person*, we probably have enough evidence that such
a thing can be done.
During the night I thought of another aspect to Snape's supposed
killing of Dumbledore. Let's assume that the AK was actually a
nonverbal Impedimenta. If Snape blasted Dumbledore off the tower and
let him fall to his death, he still killed him, right? But one part
of the description does not match the effect of an Impedimenta: "For
a split second, he seemed to hang suspended beneath the shining
skull, and then he fell slowly backward, like a great rag doll, over
the battlements and out of sight."
If we were only seeing an Impedimenta, we would expect Dumbledore to
be blasted into midair and then fall to earth in the usual way. This
sounds more like POA and the Dementors on the Quidditch
pitch: "Dumbledore...ran onto the field as you fell, waved his wand,
and you sort of slowed down before you hit the ground." If everyone's
eyes were focused on Dumbledore as he was in midair, Snape could have
done something similar after the Impedimenta.
Granted, this does not explain the trickle of blood from Dumbledore's
mouth or the strange angle of Dumbledore's arms and legs as he lay on
the ground. Nevertheless, it is possible that Dumbledore was
extremely close to death as he wordlessly communicated with Snape on
top of the tower. Snape, although he hated the thought of appearing
to kill Dumbledore, performed the fake AK/Impedimenta, and Dumbledore
died on his own from the effects of the poison potion, either as he
fell slowly to the foot of the Tower or in the moments afterward.
(Remember, it took Harry a while to get back to Dumbledore's body. If
DD were still alive after the fall, he could have chosen to release
the Petrificus Totalus on Harry at the time of impact and then have
died shortly thereafter.)
Merrylinks, realizing that things aren't always what they seem in the
world of JKR
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