The Eggplant and Snape and I (was: It's over, Snape is evil)

[eggplant107]

No: HPFGUIDX 138804

 "Jessica Bathurst" <ragingjess at h...> wrote:

> Either Snape was working alone

In which case it was an act of betrayal just as I said. 

> or he had an agreement with Dumbledore.

Then Dumbledore really is senile and Snape should be reprimanded for
taking advantage of him.

> Dumbledore seems to think he's plenty
> expendable himself, drinking unknown
> poisons and stuff. 

Dumbledore must think Harry and Snape are expendable too because he
must know that one result of his "plan" is that if and when Voldemort
is defeated Harry will dedicate his life to killing Snape. 

> I'd like to point out that many men
> have been dragged into sketchy 
> situations by ego-stroking weepy
> (or not-so-weepy) women.

But this is so blatant, it would be such an incredibly stupid thing to
do, and this is Snape we're talking about. Do you really expect JKR to
write her next book on this foundation? What a hideous turkey that
would be! 

To make the good Snape theory work you must pile up stupid and
uncharacteristic actions on top of improbable coincidences on top of
illogical plans on top of a bad plot to produce a dreadful book. And I
just don't think that's going to happen.

> if you think you're making a vow
> about something else (protecting 
> Draco), and then get the surprise
> third section. 

It is a fact that for 16 years Snape has been a good enough secret
agent to fool either Dumbledore or Voldemort or both (I think both).
You have to be pretty smart to do that and it would be
uncharacteristically brain dead dumb to make a beginner's blunder like
that.

> I stand by that. But you've got an
> uncanny connection to the mind 
> of Voldemort.

Thanks
.. I think.

> If his [Snape's] goal is to destroy
> Voldemort, there's no conflict
> of purpose 

That is one of his goals; I think the other is to become the most
powerful wizard in the world and to do that he must kill Dumbledore too.

>  we never see him [Snape] come to
> class unprepared, and he does try
> to actually teach these kids potions.  

Not only does Snape abuse children to an almost criminal degree I
don't think he's even very good at teaching his subject. When Harry
makes a potion for the first time without Snape breathing down his
neck in his OWL test he surprised himself at how well he does.

> my teacher-husband is sad that we
> won't be getting any more Snape
> classroom moments

I'd like more Snape classroom moments too, I love reading about Snape
but I don't think I'd love actually having him as a teacher.

> once Snape enters the room, any
> surprise advantage he may have
> is gone. 

Not true, the Death Eaters think Snape is on their side and do not
expect him to attack them.

> Snape kills one DE, he might have
> enough time to kill another 
> before he's set upon by the 
> remaining hyped-up and extremely
> trigger-happy DEs, whom he will
> then have to fight, along with
> Grayback

Snape is far more powerful than the Death Eaters, I think he'd have a
pretty good chance of killing them all in a surprise attack. And if he
failed
.,well
. better to die than betray your friends.

Eggplant