Plot Oversight in PS/SS?
suehpfan1
sue.stanley at sbcglobal.net
Sat Aug 27 19:21:01 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 138884
Derek:
In other words, if Quirrell had somehow managed to use his troll
diversion successfully at Halloween, and had gotten past the
protections then instead of later in the school year, the Stone
just wouldn't have been there?
Geoff:
This passage, on re-reading, raises a number of questions. First, for
whom were the protections set up? Was Dumbledore expecting the Trio
to get through them on their own? Their individual and combined
talents got them through in the end but was this the result he wanted
or expected?
The other thought which came to me was, if Quirrell had got to the
dungeon through the various obstacles, why were some of them still
apparently intact? The troll was knocked out and the key had been
used but the chess game and the potion bottles seemed to be intact.
Was the chess game magically "programmed" to reset itself? If
Quirrell had solved the logic problem, how is it that there was still
some of the liquid in the little bottle which we are told that Harry
drained at one gulp?
Sue(hpfan):
I have always thought the troll at Halloween was a diversion to "see"
what was guarding the stone and that DD decided after that point he
had better add something to the collection to make the stone nearly
impossible to get to. Clearly, he believed someone could get through
the others and access the stone. (Clearly to me becuase he added it
later and as a brilliant mind he figured what the troll was for, as
did Snape, the night it was released).
As far as the potion goes, there was very little left in the bottle
that Harry drained in one gulp. Harry describes it as "barely one
swallow." (US pb 286) I alwasy thought that was because Quirrel had
already taken enough to get himself through. I am also pretty
confident that the chess set did indeed get up and re-set itself.
I have always wondered about whether DD knew the trio would try to
get to the stone. I think now, after reading HBP, DD would have
done his best to keep them out and then let the cards fall where they
would. I don't think he intended Harry to try and get to the stone
or face Voldemort. We know that DD's fatal flaw is his trust in
people, he evidently continued to trust Quirrel long after Snape had
stopped trusting him. We know now that they were very close, DD
would have known Snape's suspicions and probably told him to wait and
see, that perhaps Quirrel would come around. He did not seem to know
about the whole Voldehead problem.
I am currently re-reading PS/SS to see if I can find anything
interesting there in regard to Horcruxes and it seems like an
entirely different book now that I know what I know about the
relationship between Snape and Dumbledore (not that I presume to know
the whole truth until this whole series is done, although I'm leaning
to the loyal-to-DD!Snape side).
Sue(hpfan) who appologizes for rambling, thought I was going to write
something short and sweet.
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