Harry's story , NOT Snape's (was Re: "An old man's mistakes")
nrenka
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Mon Aug 29 16:17:03 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 139010
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "pippin_999" <foxmoth at q...>
wrote:
> Pippin:
> But this is Harry's story, not Snape's.
> It's Harry who has to become a mature and capable adult, which
> means learning to accept that there are adults who may not be as
> mature and capable as he is, but are not deserving of the word
> 'evil', which as Hermione says is awfully strong. Is that really
> the word we want to use for nasty school teachers?
Evil is a word that one could use for a murderer--and you must admit
that the jury is eminently out upon that one. Perhaps the story is
going to be that one has to leave aside some genuine evils to deal
with others--but one must not discount the lesser evil as what it is
simply because of the circumstances.
<snip>
> Yet Snape's past history is kept from us, which certainly *doesn't*
> tell us that it's not important. You might as well argue that it
> wasn't important whether Vader was really Luke's father, since
> Lucas didn't resolve that in The Empire Strikes Back.
Let me clarify this; what I meant was that given the problematization
of Snape in the book, we may well be framing the questions completely
wrong to begin with.
> Pippin:
> How can he be right when he's making judgments the same way
> he always has, with anger and prejudice? Is it the idea that once
> you grow up, you can trust your prejudices? Bleh!
The idea may well be that you can trust your instincts, your gut,
your heart. In interview (which you noted elsewhere), JKR says that
Harry can't do Occlumency--and she says that yes, he is damaged, but
also that he is too fundamentally honest with himself about his
experiences to *repress* them. I found it interesting that (contrary
to my thoughts) Occlumency has now been framed as something those who
can cut themselves off from the better emotions, such as pity, excel
at. Repressing the emotions is generally (I ain't a psychologist, so
anyone can hop in) not a healthy thing.
Dumbledore told us that Harry's heart saved him, not his ability to
block his mind. The solution may be more of an emotionally-centered
one (forgiveness, realization of that sort) rather than
intellectually (Harry works out all the events and plot nuances). I
suspect that not getting the latter would be a disappointment to many
readers who like to try to figure everything out by the details, but
I can see it not happening. Or it could.
> Pippin:
> You mean conspiracy theories like, Dumbledore is running a secret
> organization of spies, Snape has managed to worm his way back into
> what passes for Voldemort's confidence, Snape was the eavesdropper,
> Lupin is spying on the werewolves? Those theories?
> I can't take credit for 'em. But I definitely read 'em all here. And
> they're canon now.
Oh, I was thinking more along the lines of "Snape was only acting in
the Shrieking Shack upon Dumbledore's orders so that Peter would end
up sent back to Voldemort bearing a life debt to Harry", or "Snape
and Dumbledore had a plan created long in advance so that Dumbledore
knew everything and Snape actually cast an Impedimenta instead of an
Avada Kedavra because Dumbledore told him to" actually. Or any of
the things about Neville having memory charms and being set up as a
sleeper agent, Lily having known she was going to die and plotting
with whoever to set up the events as they went down, etc.
You know, normal stuff in the Safe House. :)
-Nora sits up in Switzerland, way above the shores of the Bay
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