Apologizing to Snape? (was: Harry's story, not Snape's)

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Tue Aug 30 04:01:22 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139079


> > Alla:
> > Snape is Harry's teacher, nothing more ( well, as it turned out he 
> > is also complicit in Harry's parents deaths,) but Snape has no 
> > personal relationship to Harry, IMO and had absolutely no right to 
> > run his mouth off at Harry's dead father, none.
> > 
> > I wanted to slap him , when I read those quotes.
> 
> 
> Lady Indigo:
> But the point is that it was true, and Harry's acknowledgement of 
> this would have allowed for a more beneficial relationship with 
> someone who, while certainly not the nicest person, was for all 
> Harry knew a very useful and important resource prior to Book 6. 
> Certainly someone trusted in Dumbledore's eyes, at least, however  
> that did or didn't turn out.

Valky:
It just wouldn't be Harry to do that. Harry is not a Slytherin type,
he isn't looking for beneficial relationships, he looks for meaningful
camaraderie and friendship. He is a true Gryffindor. It would be Snape
and only Snape that would percieve ny value in a coldly beneficial
relationship between them. Harry wouldn't know the first thing to do
with one. Snape constantly accuses harry and James of being all self
interested and needing powerful friends but *that* is *not* true of
Harry, and neither was it ever true of James. Harry was certainly
right about that, and hence entitled to hang on to some manner of
belief that Snape was a bit deluded with angst when it came to James.
Harry's connection with James comes most strongly in POA and through
Sirius, Harry sees that he and his father both believed in true
friendship, like Sirius. Snape says that James never did and that
Harry doesn't either. Snape *is* wrong, too, is all I am saying, and
even if he was *only* right, what could a boy like Harry do with that
knowledge?





> Alla:
> > 
> > I submit that Penseive scene was only ONE scene in seven years 
> > relationship which we don't know much about yet. And we know that 
> > Snape belonged to that gang according to Sirius. I never 
> > considered Sirius' to be a liar, but after HBP when his words 
> > about Snape's involvement with DA pretty much confirmed, I am 
> > taking his factual comments about Snape pretty much at face value. 
> 
> Lady Indigo:
> Don't you think we would have, at least as a 
> 'you did it too!' retort of some kind?

Valky:
We get one of those.
* Snape never missed a chance to Hex James, you don't think your 
* father would take that lying down do you?

> Lady Indigo:
>
> The fact that Snape's use of Sectumsempra involves a single cut on  
> James's face when it's shown to be capable of much worse is very 
> telling, too, about how little Snape either was able to or chose to 
> retaliate.


Valky:
Oh I don't think so. James did get a warning from Sirius and both
James and Sirius seemed to take a curse from Snape quite seriously. 
James was quick off the mark, a seeker with exceptional reflexes, and
he moved before the curse hit him. There is no proof in the Pensieve
scene at all that Snapes Sectumsempra was controlled, and plenty of
evidence that Sirius and James just knew when to duck.

Valky
so relieved that a pensieve debate came along to take her mind off
that darn SHIP!








More information about the HPforGrownups archive