Apologizing to Snape?

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Tue Aug 30 17:53:34 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 139117

> Pippin:
<snip>
> Unless Snape knew when Harry was going to be born, how could
> he know to whom the prophecy would refer? We don't even know
> if  James and Lily had already defied Voldemort three times when 
it 
> was given, or if that too was in the future. 


Alla:

OK, when Snape was giving this information to Voldemort, he knew 
that he was condemning UNNAMED  couple and their baby to death. How 
does it make what Snape did any better?



Pippin:
It was also, according
> to Dumbledore, strictly Voldemort's decision whether to believe
> the prophecy or not. Snape is not responsible for that at all,
> though obviously he must have hoped that Voldemort would 
> regard the information as important and reward him for it.


Alla:

I asked this question earlier, but I am going to ask it again. What 
do you think Snape expected  for Vodemort to do with this 
information? With information that child will be born,who would 
defeat him?


Pippin:

> Now, if Harry were my kid, would I have told him that he should
> apologize to Snape for prying in the pensieve? I think I would,
> though I wouldn't force him to do it. I would explain that it
> wouldn't mean he was conceding to any of Snape's allegations
> about his character, just that had indeed behaved wrongly and 
> foolishly in this case.


Alla:

But that is the thing . Harry has no parents, partially thanks to 
Snape. I don't think Harry owes anything to Snape, sorry.

Was his act foolish? Yes, of course, but it makes me suspicious that 
JKR does not address the "foolishness" of this act at all, even 
though she makes Harry admit  that he blamed Snape for Sirius' death 
because it was easier to do than to blame himself. So, when she 
wants to show that Harry was wrong in blaming Snape, she does.

I speculate that Snape orchestrated Harry's trip in  the pensieve.


Pippin:
> Everyone thinks it's terribly moving when Harry is able to
> help the physically crippled Dumbledore, but somehow people are 
> revolted  that an emotionally crippled person should need 
> aid from a healthy youngster, or, heaven forbid, be allowed to 
teach. 

Alla:

Well, I am not sure I get the analogy. Are you saying that Harry is 
healthy youngster? Because I definitely disagree with this statement.


Oh, and yes, Snape should not be allowed to teach of course, IMO :-)


Pippin:
> But Jo has said she thinks it's important that children understand
> that adults have problems too, that they struggle.
>  


Alla:

 Maybe it is important to understand, but I would prefer to see 
those adults, who abuse those children get punished first and then 
for the kids to see that it is not their fault, that the adults have 
problems, not they. I think it is especially important for Neville 
to understand it


dan:
> And Harry is supposed to offer to this hideous man with a DE 
history
> and a personal culpability in Harry's orphan status some kind of
> gesture of understanding, a man who has conveniently forgot to tell
> Harry anything at all about his role in the death of Harry parents?
> What gesture is being asked for here? What gesture would be 
appropriate?

Alla:

I just want to say - BRAVO, dan.


I can totally see Harry forgiving  Snape at the end, but not because 
Snape would somehow deserve it or because Harry would  be obligated 
to do so.

"It is not your mercy that matters it is mine"


JMO,

Alla






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