In Defense of Hagrid

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 143912

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Sherry" <Sherry at P...> wrote:
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> --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "hickengruendler"
> <hickengruendler at y...> wrote:
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> > --- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Steve" <bboyminn at y...> wrote:
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> >  
> > > 
> > > Let's look carefully at Hagrid. He is, if not uneducted,
> > > then at least under-educated. He is a simple man with 
> > > definitely no formal  training in teaching methods. 
> > 
> > Hickengruendler:
> > 
> > That's why he shouldn't teach. ... not without some training. 
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> Amontillada:
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> That raises an interesting question: What sort of preparation do the
> Hogwarts teachers have for lesson planning, classroom management,
> discipline, or any of the other specific skills called for in
> teachers. ...
> 
> ...edited...
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> In general, Hogwarts faculty may well learn teaching skills in
> practice, or by help and advice from their colleagues. If that's
> the case, Hagrid's big problem may be that he's relatively 
> solitary, ..., or that he can't bring himself to ask for help. 
> In that case, as much as I hate to blame things on Dumbledore, 
> this may be a case where he should have taken more direct action 
> instead of waiting for Hagrid to act on his own behalf.
> 
> Amontillada

bboyminn:

Hagrid (and other teachers)is qualified because he knows his subject,
and for many, that is qualification enough. True in the USA, we have
Teaching Colleges designed specifically to given future teacher
specific training in the area of applied education. But as you said,
that is a very new innovation. 

However, even today, many techical and vocational schools do not
require a teacher to have teacher training. The primary qualification
is that they know the specific subject they are teaching. This is also
true at the college level in the USA, college professors know their
subject (usually), but they rarely have formal teacher training.

This is also true in foreign schools. I suspect it is only in
extremely recent years that any applied education classes were taken
by primary and secondary level teachers. 

In a school of /applied/ arts like Hogwarts, I think we are more on
the level with technical and trade schools. They are all learning a
specific applied /trade/, so it wouldn't be that uncommon for the
teachers to be selected for their knowledge of the subject rather than
their skill as teachers.

Just passing it along.

Steve/bboyminn