Scapegoating Slytherin (was:Punishing Draco )

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> Jen:

 There's no way around the fact all the Founders except 
> Hufflepuff were discriminatory about who should go into their 
> houses, based on what they believed to be most important. All were 
> elitist whether it was the 'pure ancestry' of Slytherin, the 
> intelligence of Ravenclaw or the brave deeds of Gryffindor.

Alla:

Sorry, Jen there IS a way around of that to me. :-) All founders 
discriminated, sure, BUT none of them except Slytherin discriminated 
based on something you cannot change, IMO. You CAN work on your 
courage, you probably cannot work on your  IQ, but hard work can get 
even not very "naturally talented" student very very far.

Slytherin's discrimination is  the worst to me and I believe that it 
is the worst to Rowling too.

Besides, all founders wanted specific qualities in their students, 
but NONE of them said that those students who don't meet those 
qualities should not be admitted to Hogwarts, none except Slytherin.

THAT was the cause of the fight, even though all four were fighting, 
the cause for such fight was Slytherin and Slytherin alone IMO.

I said it many times - I do think that unity would be achieved at 
the end, but I am also pretty sure that there would be no "blood 
supremacy" ideology lurking in Slytherin house anymore. I don't 
know  it would be achieved, I am very inclined to think that Houses 
will dissolve at the end, but we wil just have to wait and see, of 
course.

> > -Nora finds the blood foundation of Slytherin House about as 
> > distasteful, in the realm of education, as it gets
> 
> Jen, who agrees while noting that JKR said we are seeing Slytherin 
> house mainly through the eyes of DE's children.


Alla:

Well, yes, yes, of course we do see through the eyes of DE children, 
but don't you find it telling, Jen that with only ONE book left for 
all the talk about "good" Slytherin student before HBP, we actually 
STILL see none of them. Unless of course one considers Draco to be a 
good Slytherin, which I most definitely don't.

That was Gerry, right, who said that Draco only did not manage to 
kill when he was looking his victim into the face, but had no 
problem doing those other deeds.
So to me he has a very, very, very long way to travel for me to ever 
call him a "good" person. I am not even talking about "great" person 
or "saintly" person, but good, normal person.

So, IMO good Slytherins may exist somewhere unknown to us, they may 
even indeed exist in JKR mind, but JKR does not show them to Harry, 
she does not show them to us. I intepret it not very favorably, 
personally.

JMO,

Alla