CHAPDISC: HBP5, An Excess of Phlegm

h2so3f h2so3f at yahoo.com
Tue Dec 6 03:46:17 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 144148

Juli  wrote:
1) We don't see many people who call Dumbledore by his first name. 
Minerva calls him Albus (PS/SS Ch 1), maybe Mad-Eye Moody calls him 
Albus, perhaps also Fudge, but Molly? That's a first. How close do 
you think the Members of the Order actually are? Molly calling him 
Albus makes me think that all of them see each other as family, not 
only as colleagues. What do you think?


CH3ed:
I think Juli is right. The OotP members have faced dangers and 
fought together under the wise and respectful leadership of DD. I 
think they are much closer as a group than the DE's are under LV. I 
was a bit surprised that DD declared himself as "Dumbledore" instead 
of Albus or Albus Dumbledore to distinguish himself from Aberforth 
when he and Harry were challenged by Molly, tho. DD is on first name 
basis with Molly and Tonk (who does not object to being called 
Nymphadora this time).


2) Mollywobbles. Anyone knows what it means? Not being English 
myself I haven't a clue about it.


CH3ed:
Don't know... But I have a feeling my girl friend wouldn't allow me 
to call her that even if her name is Molly. ;O)  

By the way, Molly didn't ask for a secret question or password from 
DD. And DD, unlike Arthur, let that slide.
 

4) What's with Fleur's comment of Gabrielle? (The one when she 
mentions Gabrielle has been talking non stop about Harry). Is it a 
sign of what we may see in book 7, a possible relationship between 
her and Harry? Maybe Gabrielle as a young Ginny?


CH3ed:
Guess Gabrielle had developed a crush on Harry since his rescuing 
her in GoF. I don't think Harry is or will be interested, tho.... 
Unless something happens to Ginny in Book 7 (hope not).


6) We all know Tonks is seriously depressed. Is her depression 
because she has lost a dear cousin, or because Remus won't marry 
her? Or perhaps a bit of both. What do you think?


CH3ed:
Hermione's diagnosis is propable, except that Tonk looked perfectly 
fine when she and other OotP member came to see Harry off at King's 
Cross at the end of OotP and Sirius was already dead then. So 
whatever was bothering Tonk must have happened after the end of Book 
5. So I'd vote for her being depressed because Remus rejected her 
advances.

On a side note, it seems to me that powerful wizards 
disapparate/apparate with less or no noise, while not so powerful 
ones do it with a loud crack. If that is correct then Tonk is some 
powerful witch since, like DD, Tonk disapparates without any noise 
at all.


7) Why wasn't there a memorial, funeral, or wake for Sirius? I know 
there wasn't a body to bury, but still, those who loved him needed 
to say good-bye: they needed closure.


CH3ed:
My first instinct is to say they couldn't have an open memorial 
because they (OotP members) would constitute a target-rich 
environment for ambush and those that are working as spies would 
risk their cover.  But then they probably could have had a private 
memorial somewhere (tho not at 12 GP because of the uncertainty over 
ownership issue).


8) Do you think that Molly's clock with all its hands pointing 
towards mortal peril is a sign of what may happen in book 7? Will we 
be seeing more than one Weasley death? Who do you think it will be? 
When reading this chapter I got flash-backs to Molly's bogart in 
Grimmauld Place. Will all her worst fears come true?


CH3ed:
Gosh I hope all the Weasleys survive book 7. I think there is a good 
chance some of them will get seriously hurt, tho. And I hope LV 
doesn't take "U No Poo" personally. ;O) I wonder where Molly got 
that clock. It seems to be a rare thing as she doesn't know of 
anyone else who has one.

Come to think of it I wonder why hasn't DD made a map like the 
Marauders' of The Burrows (so there wouldn't be a need for the 
questions and passcodes to check out visitors). He has seen the 
Marauders' map from GoF, I presume he knows the magic to make one ( 
I mean, if the Marauders could then DD should be able to, ay?).


9) Why do you think Percy still won't come back home? He knows that 
Dumbledore & Co where telling the truth all along, is it 
because "people find it far easier to forgive others for being wrong 
than being right"? Is it just a pride thing?

CH3ed:
Yep, probably... I guess it is a Gryffindor trait to be proud. A 
noble and stupid trait all at the same time.


10) Didn't Bill ask for his parents' permission before he took Fleur 
to live with them? Or are the Weasleys so polite that they keep 
their feeling about Fleur bottled up to protect Bill?


CH3ed:
I think Bill might have asked.. but more like ,"Mom & dad, I'm 
bringing Fleur to stay with us a while. Is that OK?" rather 
than ,"Mom& dad, may I please bring Fleur to stay with us?" I think 
Bill is the favorite son and he knows it. Arthur and Molly probably 
hate to say no to him.


CH3ed thanks Juli for the good work on Chapter 5!!  :O)







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