CHAPDISC: HBP5, An Excess of Phlegm

[Deb]

No: HPFGUIDX 144159

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   Discussion Questions
    
   1)     We don't see many people who call Dumbledore by his first 
name. Minerva calls him Albus (PS/SS Ch 1), maybe Mad-Eye Moody 
calls him Albus, perhaps also Fudge, but Molly? That's a first. How 
close do you think the Members of the Order actually are? Molly 
calling him Albus makes me think that all of them see each other as 
family, not only as colleagues. What do you think?

 I think that after spending a year at 12 Grimwald Place, being the 
housekeeper, chef, scheduler, confidante, and source of major 
emotional and physical support for the OOP, Molly has become friends 
with just about every member of OOP. I suspect she thinks of them 
all as family... incuding Dumbledore. I also thinks she probably 
only calls him Albus when they are not engaged in OOP business. Like 
any group of people who spend a lot of time together working on a 
common goal, I think the OOP members have become quite close to each 
other. While not everyone likes or is close to everyone else, they 
(for the most part) like and respect each other.   
    
   2)     Mollywobbles. Anyone knows what it means? Not being 
English myself I haven't a clue about it.

 I think this is a variation of the word "collywobbles" which means 
an upset stomach caused by nervousness or slight fear; or  
bellyache. I think it is Arthur's pet name for her because she does 
worry so about her children... and anyone else who comes under her 
protective apron. And Molly does tend to "bellyache" about things - 
complain, gripe, stew....   
    
   3)     Arthur's greatest ambition is to discover how planes stay 
on the air. Don't wizards and witches learn any physics at all? 
Don't they –Arthur & Co- know that there are muggle books that can 
easily explain the basic concepts of aerodynamics? 

Trouble is I don't think Arthur has the basic understanding of 
physics that would be needed to understand the language of 
aerodynamics - any more than most Muggles could understand the 
language of transfiguration. No, I don't think wizards learn 
physics. Besides I think his desire to discover "how" planes stay in 
the air is not so much a scientific questions as a metaphysical 
question.  
    
   4)     What's with Fleur's comment of Gabrielle? (The one when 
she mentions Gabrielle has been talking non stop about Harry). Is it 
a sign of what we may see in book 7, a possible relationship between 
her and Harry? Maybe Gabrielle as a young Ginny?

   I think Fleur was, in a round about way, telling Harry that she 
and Gabrielle are still very grateful to Harry for bringing 
Gabrielle back from the merfolk in GOF. And I suspect Gabrielle has 
a crush on Harry. But I don't think we will see any shipping news 
between her and Harry.    
    
   5)     Which classes did Hermione actually took? And how is it 
possible for anyone to get 12 OWLS (like Bill Weasley and Barty 
Crouch Jr.)? Did they get Time-Turners? Or did they study the 
classes on their own without any professors' assistance? Is this 
what Hermione did?
   >Shrug< this has been a puzzle to me for quite awhile  
    
   6)     We all know Tonks is seriously depressed. Is her 
depression because she has lost a dear cousin, or because Remus 
won't marry her? Or perhaps a bit of both. What do you think?

I think it is a bit of both. Sirius was apparently the only other 
one of the Black family (except Tonks mother?) who did not follow 
the family belief systems about Muggles, purebloods, etc. While they 
may not have been real close on an emotional level, I suspect Tonks 
feels a great loss at his death. And yes I think she is depressed 
because Lupin won't reciprocate her feelings for him.... or won't 
act on such feelings anyway. And she can't talk to him much as he is 
off doing spy duty with the werewolves.... and I'll bet she worries 
about him while he is doing so.  Add to these problems the fact that 
Tonks is doing some kind of guard duty at Hogwarts ... which most of 
the time is probably pretty boring and lonely.   
    
   7)     Why wasn't there a memorial, funeral, or wake for Sirius? 
I know there wasn't a body to bury, but still, those who loved him 
needed to say good-bye: they needed closure.
      
  Again >Shrug<  I don't know why there was no memorial service for 
Sirius.... perhaps that is not a traditon in the WW. 
    
   8)     Do you think that Molly's clock with all its hands 
pointing towards mortal peril is a sign of what may happen in book 
7? Will we be seeing more than one Weasley death? Who do you think 
it will be? When reading this chapter I got flash-backs to Molly's 
bogart in Grimmauld Place. Will all her worst fears come true?

We may well see the death of a Weasley in book 7 but I don't think 
*all* of Molly's fears will come to pass. My guess is that Percy 
will be the one killed as he tries to do something heroic ... save 
Harry, save Ginny or Ron, or something like that. Or it could be one 
or both of the twins who die... but I for one sincerely hope that is 
not the case. 
     
   9)     Why do you think Percy still won't come back home? He 
knows that Dumbledore & Co where telling the truth all along, is it 
because "people find it far easier to forgive others for being wrong 
than being right"? Is it just a pride thing?

I thinks Percy still feels strongly that his parents have wrong 
attitudes about MOM. Even though he knows LV has truly returned that 
was not the only disagreement he had with his parents. Additionally 
he may not know how  to go about righting things. After all when he 
went home with Scrimgeour at Christmas, he got food thrown at 
him     
    
   10)    Didn't Bill ask for his parents' permission before he took 
Fleur to live with them? Or are the Weasleys so polite that they 
keep their feeling about Fleur bottled up to protect Bill?

Oh I think it went something like this:
 Bill: Hey Mom, Dad you know how I've been seeing a lot of Fleur De 
La Croix? Well she really needs a place to stay and it is so 
expensive to rent a place what with her only working part time and 
all. Could she come here and stay with you while she's working 
Gringotts? You know she doesn't have much family left, and she is so 
far from home. Plus there is the language problem. And, ummm, well, 
>blush< ya see, we're um well, we really like each other alot and... 

 Arthur: Ummm, Er, well, I guess it's ok, son, but you'd better ask 
your mother

 Molly: (who does not yet know Fleur very well) -Oh Bill, that poor 
girl! Of course she can come and stay. We'd love to get to know your 
little friend better.    
   
   Thanks to Penapart Elf for her help. I hope you all enjoy the 
discussion

Good questions Juli! Thanks

Deb - aka djklaugh		
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