CHAPDISC: HBP5, An Excess of Phlegm

[pippin_999]

No: HPFGUIDX 144192


>   Discussion Questions
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>   1)     We don't see many people who call Dumbledore by his first name. Minerva calls 
him Albus (PS/SS Ch 1), maybe Mad-Eye Moody calls him Albus, perhaps also Fudge, but 
Molly? That's a first. How close do you think the Members of the Order actually are? Molly 
calling him Albus makes me think that all of them see each other as family, not only as 
colleagues. What do you think?

Pippin:
I think they had a long talk about Harry at the end of GoF, and Molly thinks she
knows him as well as anyone can.

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>   2)     Mollywobbles. Anyone knows what it means? Not being English myself I haven't a 
clue about it.

I think it's Arthur's way of telling her, when they're alone, that she still gives him
the shivers (I agree it's a pun on 'collywobbles'.) Molly blushes because
Harry's there, just at that awkward age all parents of older teens are familiar with,
when a child is old enough to understand a sexual joke  but not to be included
in it. 

  
>   3)     Arthur's greatest ambition is to discover how planes stay on the air. Don't 
wizards and witches learn any physics at all? Don't they –Arthur & Co- know 
that there are muggle books that can easily explain the basic concepts 
of aerodynamics? 

Pippin:
I suspect he's as lost as Harry was trying to understand Golpalotts Third Law.
But it also might indicate prejudice of a sort, thinking that because it's 
Muggle stuff he *can't* understand it. Like JKR said, nobody's all good or
all bad. None of her characters are entirely free of prejudice anymore than
they're entirely free of lust, or greed or any of the other deadlies. 

    
>   4)     What's with Fleur's comment of Gabrielle? (The one when she 
mentions Gabrielle has been talking non stop about Harry). Is it a sign of 
what we may see in book 7, a possible relationship between her and Harry? 
Maybe Gabrielle as a young Ginny?

Pippin:
I think we're just being reminded of Gabrielle's existence since she's going
to be at the wedding. I'd expect some comic relief, or else she's going to
be another victim of Voldemort's rise.

>   6)     We all know Tonks is seriously depressed. Is her depression 
because she has lost a dear cousin, or because Remus won't marry her? 
Or perhaps a bit of both. What do you think?

Pippin:
I think Remus was courting her, broke off out of guilt after he killed Siriuis
(sorry, but that's how it is with me) and she thinks it's because he's
blaming *her*.

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>   7)     Why wasn't there a memorial, funeral, or wake for Sirius? 
I know there wasn't a body to bury, but still, those who loved him
needed to say good-bye: they needed closure.

Pippin:
It kind of echoes what JKR said about Harry's christening, that it was
war and everyone was in hiding, so they couldn't have much of a ceremony.
I think after the group at King's Cross had their little talking to with the
Dursleys they went and had a drink somewhere and toasted his memory,
(with his murderer, gah!) but it would have been too dangerous for Harry 
to go.

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>   8)     Do you think that Molly's clock with all its hands pointing 
towards mortal peril is a sign of what may happen in book 7? Will 
we be seeing more than one Weasley death? Who do you think it will 
be? When reading this chapter I got flash-backs to Molly's bogart in 
Grimmauld Place. Will all her worst fears come true?

Pippin:
I've been afraid ever since Ron saw himself standing alone in 
the Mirror of Erised that *all* his brothers would die.


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>   9)     Why do you think Percy still won't come back home? 
He knows that Dumbledore & Co where telling the truth all along, 
is it because "people find it far easier to forgive others for being 
wrong than being right"? Is it just a pride thing?

Pippin:
Being a fond advocate of DDM!Percy, I think he's still keeping up
his cover.

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>   10)Didn't Bill ask for his parents' permission before he took 
Fleur to live with them? Or are the Weasleys so polite that they 
keep their feeling about Fleur bottled up to protect Bill?


Pippin:
Presumably he asked for his parents' blessing when they got
engaged, and they gave it, it's just that Molly thinks Fleur
looks down on her, and she's thinking  in return that anyone
that pretty has got to be flashy and cheap, and she's afraid
Bill will be disappointed in the end. I think Fleur is not very
used to people actually listening to what she says, so she's
never learned to be tactful. 

Pippin
who still owes the list another installment on the ESE!Lupin theory