CHAPDISC: HBP5, An Excess of Phlegm

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to Shorty-Elf who owled it back to me. Pay no attention to the  > and 
>> marks on the left side of the page. If I knew how to get rid of 
them I would, but I'm still proud of the mere ability to cut and 
paste (Lord knows, I was never any good at it in Kindergarten!)


> Very nice summary and questions, Juli. I've read
> down thread and will
> keep other replies in mind as I join in. I wish I
> had time to re-read
> the chapter, but alas, I don't.
> 
> 
> >   Discussion Questions
> >
> >   1)     We don't see many people who call
> Dumbledore by his first
> name. Minerva calls him Albus (PS/SS Ch 1), maybe
> Mad-Eye Moody calls
> him Albus, perhaps also Fudge, but Molly? That's a
> first. How close
> do you think the Members of the Order actually are?
> Molly calling him
> Albus makes me think that all of them see each other
> as family, not
> only as colleagues. What do you think?
> 
> Potioncat:
> I didn't even notice! oops. She's always "referred"
> to him as
> Dumbledore before. But I think in GoF she referred
> to McGongall as
> Minerva. Now, this is a stretch, but consider this,
> what is the
> chance that the Weasleys or Prewetts are related to
> DD in some way?
> You'd think we'd all know if it were the case, but
> we didn't know
> Sirius was related to Bellatrix LeStrange. Ron's
> physical description
> is so similar to DD's that many readers thought he
> was actually DD.
> Both DD and the Weasleys seem to have unusual
> clocks. Molly doesn't
> know anyone else who has a clock that lists moral
> peril, and Ron was
> given an unusual watch. It's a thought.
> 
> I'm sure DD was on staff at Hogwarts while Molly and
> Arthur were
> students and they would have known him as a teacher
> or headmaster.
> But if nothing else, the mothering role Molly plays
> in the Order
> would lead to her calling him by first name. I'd bet
> Arthur calls him
> Albus, too.
> >
> >   2)     Mollywobbles. Anyone knows what it means?
> Not being
> English myself I haven't a clue about it.
> 
> Potioncat: I thought of both Collywobble and
> Mollycoddle. It reflects
> that special feeling she gives him, and possibly is
> tied to some
> little joke that would have meaning to them alone
> ....old married
> couples do things like that. (Trust me on this one.)
> >
> >   4)     What's with Fleur's comment of Gabrielle?
> (The one when
> she mentions Gabrielle has been talking non stop
> about Harry). Is it
> a sign of what we may see in book 7, a possible
> relationship between
> her and Harry? Maybe Gabrielle as a young Ginny?
> 
> Potioncat: I think it has to do with the fact that
> Harry saved
> Gabrielle and her family remains grateful. Never
> mind that she may
> not have been in danger, I don't think Fleur was any
> more sure of
> that than Harry was.
> 
> 
> >   5)     Which classes did Hermione actually took?
> And how is it
> possible for anyone to get 12 OWLS (like Bill
> Weasley and Barty
> Crouch Jr.)? Did they get Time-Turners? Or did they
> study the classes
> on their own without any professors' assistance? Is
> this what
> Hermione did?
> 
> Potioncat:
> Oh, who cares what those insufferable Know-it-Alls
> did!
> 
> Erm, I didn't say that out loud, did I?
> >
> >   6)     We all know Tonks is seriously depressed.
> Is her
> depression because she has lost a dear cousin, or
> because Remus won't
> marry her? Or perhaps a bit of both. What do you
> think?
> 
> Potioncat:
>  All through the book I thought it was that she was
> sad over Sirius
> and pining for Bill. Now that the book is over, I
> think it's all
> about Remus. But to be honest, any Auror who is that
> fragile is in
> the wrong job! I have to think this is JKR nodding
> to Austen and
> romance.
> >
> >   7)     Why wasn't there a memorial, funeral, or
> wake for Sirius?
> I know there wasn't a body to bury, but still, those
> who loved him
> needed to say good-bye: they needed closure.
> 
> Potioncat:
> I think this question should be added to the open
> letter to JKR at
> the Lexicon. As many reasons as we can make up to
> fit the plot, it's
> really JKR's call. Was I the only one who forgot
> that Sirius had just
> died? I kept thinking it had been much longer. But
> consider this, in
> the two weeks that Harry has been out of school, two
> more major WW
> characters have been killed; DD is searching for and
> being injured by
> horcruxes; Snape apparantly has been hobnobbing with
> LV and providing
> first aid for DD; Lupin is hanging out with
> werewolves and hiding
> from Tonks; Shaklebolt is working for the Muggle PM;
> the Weasleys
> have been (I think) treating Ron's and Ginny's
> recent injuries. So
> anyone who might have organized it was pretty busy.
> To tell  you the
> truth...I'm not sure that many of the Order actually
> liked Sirius. Of
> course, they should have done it for Harry.
> >
> 
> >
> >   9)     Why do you think Percy still won't come
> back home? He
> knows that Dumbledore & Co where telling the truth
> all along, is it
> because "people find it far easier to forgive others
> for being wrong
> than being right"? Is it just a pride thing?
> 
> Potioncat:
> I think he's working undercover. And I will think so
> long after I've
> been proven wrong!
> >
> >
> >   10)                        Didn't Bill ask for
> his parents'
> permission before he took Fleur to live with them?
> Or are the
> Weasleys so polite that they keep their feeling
> about Fleur bottled
> up to protect Bill?
> 
> Potioncat:
> It isn't that easy. When your son brings "The One"
> home, you have to
> smile and pretend you like her.
> 
>