Please explain.

susanbones2003 rdas at facstaff.wisc.edu
Tue Dec 6 18:43:22 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 144214

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "eggplant107" 
<eggplant107 at h...> wrote:
>
> Irene Mikhlin <irene_mikhlin at b...> wrote:
> 
> > you haven't shown an example of the abuse. 
I realize it has become quite fashionable in certain circles to make
> excuses for all of Snape's villainous behavior, up to and including
> murder; but do I really need to give examples of him being grossly
> unfair to Harry? 
> 
> > And what's Harry's moral qualities have
> > got to do with it? 
> 
> Harry does not deserve to be treated like dirt, that's what its 
got to
> do with it.

Jen D interjects:
You really don't get the point? No one, even someone without "good 
moral qualities" deserves to be treated badly.
> 
> > can we blame Snape for what Neville thinks? 
> 
> Yes I believe we can. Snape must have known his words would 
terrorize
> an eleven year old boy, in fact he would have no reason other than
> that to say them. 
> 
> > So Hermione ended in the hospital wing
> to treat Snape-induced nervous breakdown then? 
> 
> When a child has suffered a serious accident a good person would 
try
> to say things to calm her down, Snape said things to increase her
> panic and despair. 

Again Jen writes:
 Snape didn't help things, no, but then he's not a "bright little 
ray of sunshine" either. You give him more power than he ever 
deserves.

> >>Me:
> >> And although child abuse does not really describe
> >> it, the fact that he also murdered the kindest,
> >> most powerful, most benevolent,and brightest
> >> wizard in a thousand years does not add
> >> significantly to Snape's character reference. 
> 
> >Objection, your honour. Circular argument, and
> >irrelevant.
> 
> Irrelevant? Besides that Mrs. Lincoln how did you like the play?
> 
> Eggplant
Oh the drama! Murder is not worse if the person was greatly beloved. 
Murder is no respector of persons. That's the cirucularity of your 
argument. This is not a comic book where the villains and good guys 
are all easily reconizable, where the motives are crystal clear and 
where up-right moral outrage makes everything better. Things aren't 
clear, they are difficult and resolution may not see every wrong 
redressed but that's a lot like reality, isn't it?
Jen D
>








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