Two scenes for most everyone (was Re: Retribution for Snape the Teacher)

[colebiancardi]

No: HPFGUIDX 144217

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "lagattalucianese"
<katmac at k...> wrote:
>
> >
> > Any member of the University community found responsible for
> > violating the sexual assault and sexual misconduct policy is
subject
> > to disciplinary action up to and including dismissal. The
standard
> > used to determine accountability is whether it is "more likely
than
> > not" that the accused has violated the policy.
> >
> > And these are for adults – of age.
> >
> >
> > Colebiancardi(my final word on this topic, as it got WAY off HP
> > discussion)
> >
> What I find unsettling about your stand is that you are prepared to
> condemn people for what they think and feel (and you determine that
> how?), not for what they do. Even the handbook you cite makes it
clear
> that what is actionable is "sexual assault and sexual misconduct"
> (i.e., somebody actually *did* something), not physical attraction,
> which as far as I know is not a criminal offense in the more
> enlightened regions of the U.S. and U.K. Though that "more likely
than
> not" bit makes me think that the university in question must be
> somewhere in the southeastern United States.
>
> I'm with Ann Landers on this one: As long as the parties involved
are
> of age and comfortable with the situation, MYO goddamned B.
>
> --La Gatta, who has had a lot more trouble with busybody neighbors
> than she has with older men
>

fourth post, sorry list-elves.

a) your biases are showing thru - the university is in the liberal
northeast.

b) you obviously don't work in a university or school - otherwise,
you would know it is the teaching place's business to know of sexual
misconduct. And it also goes with staff & staff as well. A boss
cannot have a relationship with his peons. Power position and all

c) sexual misconduct is using a power position of a professor with a
student. They don't care if it is "true" love or not

d) you seem to be very defensive that a) I loathe the idea of a
Snape/Hermione ship and b) have expressed that opinion due to it
being out of character. You don't have to like my opinion, but then
again, I don't have to like your fanfic which has no basis in canon.

e) You're correct, it is not anyone's damn business who loves whom -
but you seem determined to state that there is nothing wrong about a
fully grown adult having an attraction(is that what you are now
calling it? LOL - how quickly we change our tunes) to a much younger 
person who has barely passed adolescence. And where do I condemn the 
actions? I asked a question on where in this fantasy of yours does 
Snape realize his *attraction* to Hermione? On her 17th birthday?  
Believe, you weren't calling it *attraction* back when this began - 
you were suggesting it was a sexual relationship - BIG time.  

f) I find it more troubling that you don't see the problems with
teens involved with much older persons and they are not in an equal
position(student-teacher).

g) what goes on with adults, I don't care one bit. But the cavalier
attitude your scenerio is "no big deal" is amazing to me. Do you
know how many people are hurt in relationships where the older person
is taking advantage of their power & position over the much younger
person?  Which position are you even arguing here - first it is 
sexual, then it is attraction(when you complained about the 
University rules), and now again, it is a sexual relationship. 

colebiancardi
(there are bodice rippers if you want to read that type of stuff - in
real life, people can get thrown into jail for sexual misconduct)