Scapegoating Slytherin
Jen Reese
stevejjen at earthlink.net
Thu Dec 8 17:31:09 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 144341
> Pippin:
>It's all about power, no matter where it comes from.
Jen: In the interest of understanding the story better, I did some
searching in interviews about power and racism. I found several
things, two which particularly support your view, Pippin:
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"So we talk about power, which seems to be at the basis of the
tales: magic power, the power of parents over kids, the struggle
between the power of good and the power of evil -- ''yes,''
{Rowling} says excitedly, ''abuse of power, why people would seek
power." Vancouver Sun, 2000.
"I think kids need a bit of escapism, but I don't think Harry Potter
is divorced from reality." I suggest that this essentially is a book
about power and this delights her. "Yes. Absolutely. Kids are so
powerless, however happy they are." The Herald, 1997
Here are some thoughts on racism in the series:
"JKR: Well obviously in the wizard world passes for racism, and
that's deeply entrenched in the whole plot, there's this issue going
on about the bad side really advocating a kind of genocide, to
exterminate what they see as these half-blood people. So that was
obviously very conscious, but the other messages do grow
organically."
Fry: "It is another one of the most horrible and brilliant
inventions of the books is this snobbery this idea of purebloods and
mudbloods and this idea of mingling, mixed breeding which is a
reflection of some of the things like racism and intolerance that we
have in our world. Is that deliberate or did it come to you in a
flash again or did it just suddenly...."
JK Rowling: "That was deliberate it was always there from the
beginning as you saw with Draco even from first book with Draco
Harry discovers him first being rude about Muggles." 2003 Royal
Albert Hall
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Jen: So I think you make a good point about power Pippin, although I
still see racism as more than a vehicle for the series. I couldn't
find the quote where JKR talks about magic as the vehicle, but she
said something to that effect. Now, at the risk of writing too long
of a post, I did want to add points to a couple Pippin's examples.
Pippin:
> Our main character is Harry, and he suffers from discrimination
> based on talent, not race--Petunia hates him because he's magical,
> not because he has tainted blood.
Jen: I'm not certain Petunia makes the distinction between who Harry
is and what he's capable of doing. She calls Lily a 'freak' and
Harry 'just as abnormal' as his parents. Those descriptions struck
me as Petunia hating him for who he was born, with his ability to do
magic an expression of his abnormality.
Pippin:
> Voldemort says himself, at the age of sixteen, that killing
> Muggles and Mudbloods doesn't matter to him anymore, what matters
> is finding out why Harry had the power to vanquish the greatest
> wizard in the world.
Jen: Voldemort did indeed change his agenda over time, but once
again it's difficult for me to separate out where he started from
who he became. His first work at Hogwarts was to open the COS, erase
his Muggle heritage by changing his name/murdering his kin, and
identifying solely with being Heir of Slytherin. He then started
amassing followers who presumably held similar interests in pure-
blood superiority and dark magic. Dumbledore did not say all his
cronies, 'the forerunners of the DE's' were from Slytherin although
given who Voldemort was, I think they were. He believed Slytherin
house was superior since he was the heir, plus his need to dominate
and control would suggest having followers he could keep a close
watch on.
So did Voldemort taint his own house and Harry is seeing the results
or was LV indeed perpetuating Slytherin's 'noble work'? I've
wondered if Slughorn is not a better example of Slytherin house
before the time of Voldemort.
Pippin:
> Ron says in CoS that he had no idea all this pureblood stuff
> started with Slytherin. That would argue that he's met plenty of
> pureblood fanatics who weren't Slytherins.
Jen: Here's the entire quote: "I always knew Slytherin was a twisted
old looney...but I never knew he started all this pure-blood stuff.
I wouldn't be in his house if you paid me." (chap. 9, p. 152
Scholastic)
Is this an example of reverse discrimination going on toward
Slytherin house or has Ron heard other things about Slytherin that
make it possible for him to easily believe he started the pure-blood
discrimination?
Pippin:
> And while Hermione leaps at once to the conclusion that Draco must
> be the Heir of Slytherin, most of the school is perfectly willing
> to believe that it's Harry. No reason in their minds that a
> Gryffindor can't be a racist fanatical murderer, then.
Jen: There was a bit more to this, though. Harry was found at the
scene of Mrs. Norris' petrification and has his unusual past. First
a few people start the rumour he was Heir of Slytherin, then when he
speaks Parseltoungue, a gift Slytherin was noted to have, most
people start to believe it. It IS interesting people think the Heir
of Slytherin would be in Gryffindor.
Pippin:
> The Sorting Hat never says that it was wise or good to want
> Muggleborns banished from the school, or indeed to wish to teach
> only purebloods. And Slytherin House must represent those of
> Slytherin's followers and pupils who were happier with his old
> philosophy than his new one, who *didn't* follow Slytherin when he
> left the school, right?
Jen: I hope this will prove true, as the split happened after the
Sorting Hat was made. I find it a little difficult to believe only
Slytherin and Voldemort succumbed to the lure of power twinned with
blood discrimination over all the centuries.
Pippin:
> I wouldn't be surprised to learn that institutional racism in the
> WW predates Slytherin, and that for his time he was initially a
> progressive for founding a school to which Muggleborns could be
> admitted, even if he preferred not to have them in his House.
Jen: Nor would I. Except wouldn't that still make Ravenclaw,
Gryffindor and Hufflepuff a bit *more* progressive to actually let
them in their houses <g>?
Pippin:
>-- unless perhaps they were cheeky enough to ask to be let in. I
> keep wondering about Myrtle.
Jen: I'm waiting to hear Myrtle was in Slytherin as well, for a
different reason--I think it would be nifty if Harry discovers
cheeky Myrtle, his own mom and *himself* would have 'all done well
in Slytherin' and that's not a bad thing. Harry has definitely been
prejudiced against Slytherin house and I think the combination of
his own mom, and making peace with the HBP might help him see that.
Jen, probably writing on a thread everyone is done with. :)
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