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--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214" <dumbledore11214 at y...> 
wrote:
  
> > Pippin:
> > ::shrug:: Right. And if Snape had wings, he'd be a hippogriff. Snape
> > *can't* leave Harry alone, that's what Dumbledore was saying. 
> Snape's broken, Harry isn't. Or not so much. Thanks to Voldemort, the 
> wizarding world is full of broken people.  Stick 'em all in St. Mungo's and 
> there'll be nobody left to fight LV.
> 
> Alla:
> 
> Could you point me to canon where Dumbledore says that Snape cannot 
> leave Harry alone? 

> I remember Dumbledore saying that some wounds run too deep and that 
> is why it was a mistake to make Snape teach Harry Oclumency, but to 
> make a conclusion from that that it means that Snape cannot leave 
> Harry alone is a big stretch, IMO.

Pippin:
Dumbledore says that some wounds run too deep and that is why,
though he had thought that Snape could overcome his feelings about
Harry's father, he was wrong. Harry then asks if it's okay that
Snape hates his father, and Dumbledore dodges the question. Clearly
they are talking about more than the failure of occlumency lessons here.

I don't think it is okay that Snape hates people, I simply question whether
it is something that Snape can fix. By no means does that mean that it
is then Harry's fault that Snape hates him. But the question of who is to
blame is, for me, separate from the question of who needs to do what.
I mean, it would be nice if we could keep earthquakes from happening,
but is the earthquake to blame if you haven't fortified your
house?

 I think that Harry and Neville, despite their youth, are
indeed stronger than Snape in many ways, that they are growing and 
that Snape is static, so eventually they may be able to help him in 
ways that he can't help himself. I don't see anything wrong with that.
It might send the wrong message if they had been able to straighten
Snape out as kids, because kids shouldn't feel they have the burden of 
healing adults, but I am willing to accept that in the next book they
won't be kids anymore. I don't think it wrong for seventeen year old
Harry to heal fortyish Snape, any more than it is wrong for a young
doctor in our society to have an older patient. 

> Alla:
> 
> LOL! I just had a revelation. Snape did not really kill Dumbledore of 
> course. That was polyjuiced Remus, who took one of Snape's hair 
> during one of the Order meetings then made the potion, drank it, 
> attacked poor Snape who was sleeping while Dumbledore and Harry were 
> our Horcrux hunting, tied Snape up, put him in the Alastor Moody's 
> trunk, came back to Hogwarts. That is why Snape was not sleeping when 
> Flitwick came for him, because it was not really Snape.

> 
> So, Remus runs to the Tower, does the deed, in the meanwhile he frees 
> the Graynback and apparates away with the DE,  then hides from them 
> and comes back to Hogwarts.
> 
> Yep, I recognize the truth now. :-)


Pippin:
Actually, I think  it was Remus who used the full body bind on Greyback 
(we never find out who did)  and then smuggled him out of Hogwarts 
with Harry's invisibility cloak. But we'll see. 

I think it's very telling that Remus cannot heal Ron's leg (PoA ch 19), but Snape has
healed Dumbledore and Draco.

Pippin