Snape and GOF

h2so3f h2so3f at yahoo.com
Fri Dec 9 03:31:28 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 144384

UNIX4EVR  wrote: 
"I had finally concluded that Snape was 100% evil. Then I re-read 
GOF.
About 100 pages from the end Voldemort gives a little speech to his 
followers. He says "There are 6 missing. 3 are dead. 1 is a 
coward, and I'll find him. The other turned against me and I'll 
kill him. The 6th has returned to me and is at Hogwarts."

He goes on to say the 6th one at Hogwarts helped to get Harry to him 
in the graveyard. This has to be Barty Crouch, Jr.

The coward has to be Karkaroff.

Which leaves Snape. "The one who turned against me and I'll kill 
him."

The only other explanation is that Snape was the one who returned to 
him at Hogwarts -- but we get no indication in GOF that Snape had 
anything to do with the tri-wizard cup or killing BC Sr.

So I'm back to being confused and wondering if Snape ISN'T a good 
guy after all?" <snip>


CH3ed:
I think most everyone still have doubt as to which side Snape is 
actually on. :O)  
I'm not sure what your next to last paragraph means since that would 
leave Crouch Jr hanging in the air. It does seem Mari's and your 
first conclusion from LV's speech that Snape was the one LV referred 
to as having 'left him forever and will be killed' is correct. 

I don't think that has anything to do with the Tri-Wizard Cup or the 
murder of Crouch Sr. LV had encountered Snape since his fall from 
power (LV was on the back of Quirrell's head in PS/SS, and Wormtail 
would have told LV how Snape was working for DD and scolded Lupin 
for 'betraying DD's trust' after PoA, and Crouch/Fake Moody would 
have told LV of his suspicions of Snape's loyalty during GoF). 

After GoF I was pretty confident that Snape is DDM, but after 
reading "Spinner's End" chapter in HBP I became a lot less confident 
(tho if there is a poll now I'd vote for DDM!Snape and that the 
murder of DD was prearranged). Snape was either telling the truth 
when he explained to Narcissa and Bellatrix his position with LV or 
he was bluffing very convincingly. It is just JKR being very 
slippery with her writing of Snape that he is such a big enigma. :O)

CH3ed thinks the movie Snape is a lot more human and DDM-ish than 
the canon Snape







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