[HPforGrownups] Re: Cultural standards for Snape abusiv

[Joe Goodwin]

No: HPFGUIDX 144413


Pippin:
I don't have a problem with Snape apologizing if he chooses to.
I have a problem with Harry or anyone else *making* him do it.
That's what Lily was saying too, I think. I don't think you have
to be a saint to see that forcing someone to apologize is just
power-tripping, IMO.

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I really am not sure how much of Snape's behavior he can help. I don't
think he terrorizes all the children -- we've never seen him lose his 
temper with any child except Harry, have we? He's never lost it with
Harry in class, either. It's only when they are not in class, and Harry
has been doing something particularly James-like, that Snape can't
seem to handle himself. So I don't think Snape is out of control
generally, just in very particular circumstances. Neville and Harry are
sort of a perfect storm. 

Snape is not the only person who can't understand why Neville isn't 
better at magic and has attempted to bully more magic out of him -- 
even McGonagall has done so. And doesn't Hagrid say that magic 
shows itself when people are angry or frightened? So it would be
very easy for Snape to make excuses for himself in Neville's case.
I'm not saying they're valid, just that Neville seems to bring out
the bully in a lot of wizards besides Snape. Are they all going to
apologize too?


Pippin








 

Joe:
I might be wrong but I think we have seen Snape lose his temper with others students haven't we? I don't have the books handy I was pretty certain that we do.
   
  Even if it is just Harry there is still no excuse for it, no matter know much he looks or acts like his father. That is Jerry Springer behavior at its very best.
   
  Honestly I don't care if Snape does apologise. If it turns out that he was responsible for James and Lilly's deaths then there is nothing he can do to make amend for it. Sure he might be protecting Harry but Harry's parents could do that if Snape hadn't sold them out.Some things can't be made up for.
   
   If he wasn't responsible for their deaths then he is still a petty, mean and spiteful person. Other teachers may not treat Neville with kid gloves but none of them was his bogart either. This kid had parents who were tortured to death by Death Eaters and his biggest fear is Snape, seems kind of telling to me.
   
  Really why should Snape apologise? I can't see anyone listening and for good reasons.


Joe.