How many times Snape saved Harry/Speculations about forgiveness WAS: Cultura

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 12 04:31:49 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 144560

> Miles:
> I have the impression that the discussion is mixed up - people 
speaking of
> different layers and not always being aware of it or making it 
clear.
> So, we can discuss the moral or ethical impacts of the Harry 
Potter series,
> and whether the message Rowling gives is ok or not. I won't in 
this mail.


Alla:

I know what you mean - I think Bart said that it is a problem to 
switch from discussing characters as " real people" to "JKR's 
creations", but it is not that problematic, IMO. We just have to 
make sure to be careful what aspect we discuss.


>Miles:
> But speaking of the character Harry Potter and his role in the 
Potterverse -
> yes, I think Harry *has* to forgive Snape to some extent. If he 
would choose
> to "hate Snape forever", this would surely be understandable 
inside the
> character, and quite human as well. But how could Harry fullfil 
his role
> hating Snape? How could he have the power of love while he still 
hates? I do
> not see a convincing solution, that Harry can carry on with his 
hatred on
> Snape (and this is his main emotion at the end of HBP!) and 
overcome
> Voldemort with love at the same time. He will have to choose, 
whether to
> hate or fullfil his mission.
> 
>

Alla:

I don't understand. Why? Where in canon it says that Harry's ability 
to love MUST manifest itself as love towards Snape only? Where in 
canon it says that in order to use his ability to love Harry must 
get rid of all the hatred? It sees logical, yes, but the only way 
Harry have to proceed in order to win? Sorry I have to disagree.

Harry is quite unusual according to Dumbledore  because of his 
ability tlove, but if he gets rid of hatred completely, he may 
become not complete human either, IMO. 

Don't you think that it is likely that Harry's ability to love will 
show towards Voldemort or Draco, whom Harry already began to feel 
sorry for?

I don't remember in canon that Harry has to love EVERYBODY in order 
to succeed.

Especially, if he will manage to move on past Snape - meaning not 
hate him, but not love him either, just erase him from Harry's life 
(HAHA).

Personally, I tend to think that Harry's ability to love will show 
itself metaphorically - as in not that Harry will stand up and say 
Voldemort I love you or Snape I love you, but there will be some 
personification of this power - maybe spell, which Harry will be  
able to perform  with that power.

Regardless, I grant you, it is LIKELY that Harry will forgive Snape 
in plot development terms, but I don't agree that this is a 
necessity.

There are other maybe more appreciative recipients for that power's 
of Harry, IMO.

JMO,

Alla







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