How many times Snape saved Harry/Speculations about forgiveness WAS: Cultura
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Mon Dec 12 04:31:49 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 144560
> Miles:
> I have the impression that the discussion is mixed up - people
speaking of
> different layers and not always being aware of it or making it
clear.
> So, we can discuss the moral or ethical impacts of the Harry
Potter series,
> and whether the message Rowling gives is ok or not. I won't in
this mail.
Alla:
I know what you mean - I think Bart said that it is a problem to
switch from discussing characters as " real people" to "JKR's
creations", but it is not that problematic, IMO. We just have to
make sure to be careful what aspect we discuss.
>Miles:
> But speaking of the character Harry Potter and his role in the
Potterverse -
> yes, I think Harry *has* to forgive Snape to some extent. If he
would choose
> to "hate Snape forever", this would surely be understandable
inside the
> character, and quite human as well. But how could Harry fullfil
his role
> hating Snape? How could he have the power of love while he still
hates? I do
> not see a convincing solution, that Harry can carry on with his
hatred on
> Snape (and this is his main emotion at the end of HBP!) and
overcome
> Voldemort with love at the same time. He will have to choose,
whether to
> hate or fullfil his mission.
>
>
Alla:
I don't understand. Why? Where in canon it says that Harry's ability
to love MUST manifest itself as love towards Snape only? Where in
canon it says that in order to use his ability to love Harry must
get rid of all the hatred? It sees logical, yes, but the only way
Harry have to proceed in order to win? Sorry I have to disagree.
Harry is quite unusual according to Dumbledore because of his
ability tlove, but if he gets rid of hatred completely, he may
become not complete human either, IMO.
Don't you think that it is likely that Harry's ability to love will
show towards Voldemort or Draco, whom Harry already began to feel
sorry for?
I don't remember in canon that Harry has to love EVERYBODY in order
to succeed.
Especially, if he will manage to move on past Snape - meaning not
hate him, but not love him either, just erase him from Harry's life
(HAHA).
Personally, I tend to think that Harry's ability to love will show
itself metaphorically - as in not that Harry will stand up and say
Voldemort I love you or Snape I love you, but there will be some
personification of this power - maybe spell, which Harry will be
able to perform with that power.
Regardless, I grant you, it is LIKELY that Harry will forgive Snape
in plot development terms, but I don't agree that this is a
necessity.
There are other maybe more appreciative recipients for that power's
of Harry, IMO.
JMO,
Alla
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