How many times Snape saved Harry/Speculations about forgiveness WAS: Cultura

[Miles]

No: HPFGUIDX 144626

> Miles:
> But speaking of the character Harry Potter and his role in the
Potterverse -
> yes, I think Harry *has* to forgive Snape to some extent. If he would
choose
> to "hate Snape forever", this would surely be understandable inside the
> character, and quite human as well. But how could Harry fullfil his role
> hating Snape? How could he have the power of love while he still hates? I
do
> not see a convincing solution, that Harry can carry on with his hatred on
> Snape (and this is his main emotion at the end of HBP!) and overcome
> Voldemort with love at the same time. He will have to choose, whether to
> hate or fullfil his mission.

> Alla:
> I don't understand. Why? Where in canon it says that Harry's ability
> to love MUST manifest itself as love towards Snape only? Where in
> canon it says that in order to use his ability to love Harry must
> get rid of all the hatred? It sees logical, yes, but the only way
> Harry have to proceed in order to win? Sorry I have to disagree.

Miles:
Obviously I did not make my point clear enough.
No, I really would be surprised to see Harry loving Snape. Much too much.
But he already felt pity for him. And if he could manage to feel pity again
(I presume DDM!Snape, otherwise the situation is different), there would not
be room for hatred anymore. Just a footnote: to feel pity with someone is
compassion, and love.

Alla:
> Harry is quite unusual according to Dumbledore  because of his
> ability tlove, but if he gets rid of hatred completely, he may
> become not complete human either, IMO.

Miles:
Sure, negative emotions are part of any human being. Not necessarily hatred,
but you have to dislike if you want to like. But at the end of HBP, Harry is
full of hatred, and the target of it is Snape, not Voldemort. This won't
help him with his mission, so he will have to overcome his feelings towards
Snape - in some way.

Alla:
> Don't you think that it is likely that Harry's ability to love will
> show towards Voldemort or Draco, whom Harry already began to feel
> sorry for?

Miles:
Draco yes. Voldemort never. Tom - maybe. Compassion for Tom may be a way to
vanquish Lord Voldemort...

Alla:
> Personally, I tend to think that Harry's ability to love will show
> itself metaphorically - as in not that Harry will stand up and say
> Voldemort I love you or Snape I love you, but there will be some
> personification of this power - maybe spell, which Harry will be
> able to perform  with that power.

Miles:
Gotcha, you tried to Riddikulus my argument ;). But it is not a boggart, and
it is not part of a Saint's legend. I do not expect Saint!Harry, and I would
be appalled by Jesus!Harry (blasphemic, if you ask me).
No, I try to stay in Harry's character. We know he is full of love. Just
look at the first scene with Ron on the Hogwarts express. The first thing he
wants to do when he has money is to share. He feels Ron's discomfort and
comforts him by telling how miserable his own life is. We are cautious to
use the word "love", but this is a new development of our languages. Love is
connected to sexual and family related emotions in our everyday language -
but it can mean love between friends and strangers as well. So this is the
love I want to speak about, and Harry had shown the ability to give love -
or call it kindness, compassion, or just politeness coming from his heart.

Or just pity.

Miles