Voldemort's Plan in Book 7 (Evil Overlord for the day )
ornadv
ornawn at 013.net
Wed Dec 14 21:29:48 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 144749
>Jen:
>I've thought about what Voldemort's power IS, what Harry is
>protected from. And I've decided it's Voldemort's ability to use
>people's weaknesses against them. That's what the DADA curse was,
>and we saw Voldemort use one of Dumbledore's own students in an
>inside game, forcing Dumbledore to pull back and act defensively.
>Ultimately DD chose to save Draco over himself (I'm pretty sure DD
>knew Draco was the one entering the tower and thus the decision to
>lose his wand). Riddle used Ginny's loneliness and crush on Harry to
>lure her in. Something lured Snape in way back when and I suspect it
>was 'wearing his heart on his sleeve.'
Orna:
I find your definition of Voldemort's power very precise and
pointed. And you are right when he lured Ginny, it wasn't just
because he "had influence on her" it's because he used her
vulnerability the way you said. It's not just being evil,
inventing horrible spells but this very human-connected thing
despising weakness, and being able to locate it in others and use it
against them. Thanks that's it, I think.
It's funny, I didn't have this conceptualization, but I just posted
a message going along with this idea about Snape in Spinner's end
being tripped by Voldemort in his weakness for risk-taking and
tears, because of the DADA curse.
And I think you are right Harry's power lies in his power never to
use people's weakness against him he gets compassionate against
his will. When he thinks about Merope not willing to live for Tom
he "forgets" it's Voldemort, and feels pity.
>Jen: I'm not sure I understand? Voldemort may not internally feel
>the destruction of his horcruxes, but he has gone to great lengths
>to hide and protect them. They are everything to him, the
>culmination of his life's work such as it is. His obsession. Maybe
>you mean he has too much belief in his own powers of protection and
>therefore doesn't think about the horcruxes after hiding them?
Orna:
He has gone to great length to hide them and protect them so he
can feel immortal. But part of his being safe, has to do with the
horcruxes divided from himself. Imagine if they were "in his purse" -
anybody who hunted him down, would be able to lay hands on them,
and endanger him. It means that his best strategy is to place them
in different unconnected places, and not be in contact with them.
Like Slughorn did with his friends, when he was hiding disconnect.
On a more symbolic level it fits the essence of splitting the soul
loose connections with the parts. Worrying about them, would remind
him of the part encapsulated, he might feel something about having
lost it, and things like this, which Voldemort hates. He would do
the horcrux, put the best hiding and curse, which would fit him, and
never touch it again. He has after all 7 parts, and believes in the
powerful protection this gives him.
>Jen: I see we agree again <g>--Voldemort's first goal if he does
>learn of the horcrux hunt will be to go straight for the jugular. I
>think he's tired of messing around with Harry; getting Dumbledore
>out of the way was the last step to defeating Harry in his mind. If
>he makes another horcrux, it will be to victimize or tempt Harry.
Orna:
I join this agreement<g>. Just want to add, that since Voldemort
pathetically (IMO) believes in the prophecy so much that he
actually puts a protection on Harry so nobody besides himself
kills him, he wouldn't bother with the horcruxes that part of
magic has been done from his POV he just has to kill Harry and
that's it he is the most powerful wizard undefeatable what
more can he want?
It's interesting although natural, that Voldemort's tremendous
effort to conquer human weaknesses, results even now, before his
downfall, in him being superstitious, obssessed, irrational (I mean
instead of telling everybody to kill Harry he makes sure he stays
alive), and driven by forces outside his ability to choose. In
comparison, DD helps Harry to grow out of the compelling force of
the prophecy, and making his choice such being a master of his
fate, and not driven by events.
Orna
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