Boggart Snape (was:Re: Snape Wars vs Ship Wars...)

[pippin_999]

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> Alla:
> 
> I can only refer you to Nora's post. We ALREADY have much more 
> information that we did in PoA about Snape. We know that he is not 
> just a nasty teacher, we know that he is a former DE and it is a 
> reasonable assumption to make that he participated in many 
> atrocities, IMO. We know that he is in essense complicit in 
> Longbottoms insanity and essentially complicit in making Neville grew 
> up without parents.
> 
> Are you arguing that knowing those facts ( I am sorry - those are 
> facts for me of course, somebody may argue that they are not facts) 
> Boggart lesson works less for you?
> 

Pippin:
It isn't proven that Snape is still willing to do murder and participate
in atrocities -- do we agree on that? If he is still willing to do those
things, then Neville's fear is justified, Snape is not DDM
and  the boggart lesson doesn't work, not for me anyway. If he is
not still willing to do those things, then Neville's fear is not justified.
It would be like Harry's fear that his father remained a schoolyard
bully, not borne out by the facts.

If Snape had given up being a DE when the Longbottoms were attacked,
I don't see  how he could be complicit in it. The attack wasn't even
ordered by Voldemort but by the mysterious individual who "sent"
the Lestranges after the Longbottoms. It ties into the question
you asked in another post about why JKR refused to say whether
Voldemort would learn the whole prophecy in Book Seven. The only
reason for her to withhold that info, IMO, is that Voldemort *already*
knows the whole prophecy.

Theory:  ESE!Lupin told him, having learned it
from James. So Voldemort would have found out anyway, and 
Harry was attacked not because Voldemort was ignorant of the 
equals bit, but because Voldemort knew about it and was 
seeking to destroy Harry before he became capable of making horcruxes 
of his own.

ESE!Lupin then ordered the attack on the Longbottoms, which was a set
up,  in order to eliminate the Lestranges, who knew too much, and to 
have proof for his master, should he ever return, that Lupin wasn't DDM.

BTW, I am a little perturbed by the drift in the definition of ESE!. It used to
mean "secretly in league with Voldemort" and now it's being used to
mean "in league with Voldemort, secretly or not, and in total consonance
with his aims." So I don't know what to call my theory now, as it was
never part of it that Lupin was totally in accord with Voldemort.

Pippin