[HPforGrownups] Re: Forgiving Snape was FF: Re: Who does Snape really hate?

[Sherry Gomes]

No: HPFGUIDX 144782

mercurybluesmng wrote:
> And we KNOW that part of the reason Sirius didn't sit
> tight on Ministry raid night is Snape's continuous taunts about being
> snug in his nice little hideyhole and not having to do any of the real
> work.

Miles:
Do we? I don't. I think that Harry is very much wrong in blaming Snape for
this. Considering Sirius' unhappiness due to his passivity at GP 12, and his
love and protective instinct for Harry, he surely would have joined the
Order going to the Ministry even without a single of Snape's taunts.
Harry himself is much more responsible for Sirius' death, and he projects
his own guilt onto Snape. But we should not take Harry's PoV as granted.

Miles



Sherry now:

much as I hate to defend Snape, I agree with miles mostly.  i believe
absolutely, that Sirius would have rushed to rescue Harry, with no sneering
comments from Snape ever.  It is just his nature.  He's action oriented, and
he feels responsible for the deaths of James and lily, due to the whole
secret keeper thing.  i think that increases his feelings of wanting to
protect Harry.  it isn't just because of his won love and protection
instinct, but also for the duty he believes he owns the Potters.  Those two
things alone would be enough to drive him out of hiding to rush to Harry's
rescue.  And though it broke my heart when he died, i wouldn't have him act
any other way.  The Order rushed to rescue a bunch of kids in trouble and
protect the prophecy and the ministry.  but Sirius rushed to save Harry, and
I think that's an important distinction, especially for Harry eventually.

What I have to disagree with is the idea that Harry is responsible for
Sirius' death.  i argue this point vehemently, every time it comes up here.
Bella, the death eaters, Voldemort, they are responsible.  I'm not
interested right at this moment in Snape's part of it, though his words in
HBP have me wondering what he did to help along the death of Sirius.  But
Harry is absolutely not responsible.  That's like blaming the victim of a
terrorist attack.  Harry is a victim of the plans of Voldemort.  He had no
reason to suspect that vision of Sirius being tortured.  The occlumency
lessons were doomed to fail, and Dumbledore should have known that.
Hermione's warnings wouldn't have held anyone back, if they believed the
person they loved most was being tortured.  Nothing could have kept Harry
from rushing to help Sirius, as nothing could have prevented Sirius from
rushing to help Harry.  Voldemort had the perfect information to lure Harry
out.  i think Harry's transferring of his anger to Snape is natural, a
normal part of grieving.  In time, depending on what he learns of Snape's
true actions and loyalties, he will either be able to let go of that anger
or to know the depth of Snape's betrayal, if there was one.  for now, it's a
lot healthier for his own sake to blame Snape than to blame himself.

Just my opinion

sherry