10 reasons why Snape is not evil......
h2so3f
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Thu Dec 15 23:25:12 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 144818
~*~Sandy~*~ wrote:
"Hi everyone I am new to this group and my name is Sandy I am 30
years old and I am a huge Potter fan and not afraid to say so."
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CH3ed:
Hi Sandy. You've found a good group to hang with then. Welcome!! :O)
Sandy wrote:
"10. He (Snape) hates James Potter and what's even worse? His son
Harry looks just like him! But even though this grudge is foolish it
isn't enough to forget the fact that James was so cruel to him. Who
doesn't love paybacks ...now, who's bullying who? Snape feels some
sort of comfort in bullying Harry.
CH3ed:
I have to say I would expect a decent Snape to be able to restrain
from taking the sins of the father out on the innocent son, though.
This doesn't make Snape evil, but it does make him as bad a bully
James ever was.
Sandy wrote:
"9.Why would you send an idiot like Quirrell to do such a lousy job
when not only is Snape helping to protect the stone but in reach of
it! Don't you think it would've been easier for Voldemort to use
Snape instead of Quirrell???" <edited>
CH3ed:
LV used Quirrell in Book 1 because it was Quirrell who went to
Albania and ran into LV in hiding (Quirrell tells Harry in 'The Man
With Two Faces' in Book 1). Then when they got back to Hogwarts
Snape was working loyally for DD so LV didn't make himself or his
mission with Quirrell known to Snape because LV didn't trust him
(thought he had changed camp to be on DD side for good). This was
explained in Spinner's End (HBP).
Sandy wrote:
"8. A simple little diary isn't necessary to create such havoc.
Couldn't Voldemort have told Snape to release the damn monstrosity
of serpent?"
CH3ed:
LV did not trust Snape from Book 1 onward since Snape tried to
prevent Quirrell(with LV on the back of his head) from obtaining the
Philosopher's Stone. And the use of the diary to open the Chamber of
Secrets in Book 2 was unauthorized by LV. Lucius Malfoy jumped the
gun on that one for his own end(to get rid of DD and take over the
school?). And LV is not happy about it (DD tells Harry somewhere in
HBP)
Sandy wrote:
"7. Who wants to pay off a life/death debt. When Harry was
clinging for dear life during the Quidditch match. Why not let him
fall off and die. But no....Snape had to save Harry. Snape could
have received a gran reward for that one...and in front of an
audience and all."<edited>
CH3ed:
I don't think we know all there is to know about life debts yet.
There may be consequences to refusing to repay such debt when the
opportunity arises (I'd be surprised if Wormtail doesn't have
something really bad happen to him in Book 7). Besides, Snape was a
teacher. He was supposed to protect his students. What would DD do
to him if Snape had let Harry fall off the cursed broom in his
presence?
Sandy wrote:
"6. Do friends of enemies count as enemies also? Snape had Lupin in
the palm of his hand all the time but Snape opted for the noble
action of brewing his wolf drink every full moon. Do you think those
poor kids would've survived having a werewolf lurking around the
forest every full moon? And then come back to normality as a tired
teacher."
CH3ed:
Again I don't think DD would take kindly to Snape messing up the
Wolf's bane Potion. Snape is a good (very much an understatement in
the light of the HBP) potion-master. I think if anything he would
prefer to out duel Lupin rather than to have others think that Lupin
get seriously ill or die because Snape brew a poor potion. That
would reflect badly on him.
Sandy wrote:
"5. Snape comes across the Marauder's Map upon entering Lupin's room
and runs after to see what is going on. He could have confiscated
the map and the invisible cloak that was left just outside the
whomping willow but he does nothing with both. Yet the advises both
Harry and Ron that they are out of bounds in the company of a
convicted murderer and a werewolf. If was truly evil he would've hid
the map and cloak and used it to his advantage."
CH3ed:
He could have taken the map instead of leaving it on the desk, but
then taking it wouldn't help much since the Shrieking Shack lies
outside the map's scope (he saw Lupin running off the map's edge in
the tunnel). Snape did take and made use of the invisibility cloak,
however. He used it to sneak into the room and listened in on the
discussion between Sirius, Lupin and the trio... before revealing
himself after the story of The Prank was told.
Sandy wrote:
"4. Not only isn't Karkaroff present when the death eaters reunite
with the reborn again Voldemort but Snape's missing too. If he was
evil he would've been present. What else does Voldemort want? He had
what he planned to do....he had Harry in the palm of his hand.
Wouldn't that be enough for Snape to leave Hogwarts and re-enter
Voldemorts service?"
CH3ed:
Snape was at Hogwarts patrolling the perimeter of the maze with the
other teachers in view of the audience (and DD). If he is in league
with LV he couldn't have just left without blowing his cover with
DD. At the time the scar on his wrist was burning Harry had not
returned from the graveyard yet. Nobody at the quidditch pitch-
turned-maze(except for the fake Moody) knew that something had gone
terribly wrong inside the maze. Snape didn't know LV's plan because
the fake Moody didn't let him in on it(he hated the Deatheaters who
walk free, remember?) and LV thought Snape had left him forever.
(deduced from LV's speech at the graveyard and confirmed by Snape
in 'Spinner's End' in HBP).
Sandy wrote:
"3. Snape gives Barty Crouch Jr. veritaserum.....therefore exposing
thy enemy and sending him off to Azkaban for the second time. What
about giving him fake serum like he did with Potter when Umbridge
was around?"
CH3ed:
With DD and McGonagal watching?
Sandy wrote:
"2. Bellatrix doesn't trust Snape and if there's anyone more
conniving it might as well be a woman. He had to make that
unbreakable vow in order for her not to suspect anything."
CH3ed:
Yep, that I agree. Seems he might have gotten himself impelled upon
his own sword with the third requirement of the vow. I'd say it was
more Narcissa's fault, tho.
Sandy wrote:
"1. Occlumency, why teach the enemy the art of shutting out external
penetration of the mind? Why not let Voldemort know that Harry can
see what Voldemort is sensing and feeling. He could've damaged Harry
for good had he let Voldemort know. Remember at the end of the sixth
book when Snape warns Harry while trying to block Harry's
attempts..."Blocked again and again and again until you learn to
keep your mouth shut and you mind closed Potter! " Snape had Harry
on the ground and Dumbledore dead. He could have taken Harry and
delivered Harry himself to Voldemort but instead he left him there."
CH3ed:
DD ordered him to teach Harry it and DD is an excellent ligilimen
himself. But I do think Snape was offering Harry some good lessons
with those advises at the end of HBP and that he did protected Harry
from the other DE's cruciatus curse. But why he did it can still go
either way... he is DDM or he is ESE Snape (that really was what LV
ordered) or even OFH Snape.
I personally lean heavily toward Snape being on Dumbledore's Man
(DDM), but also think he could just be out for himself (a true
Slytherin). So we do agree he is not loyal to LV. I don't think
Snape's stance is clear though. JKR has done a good job of leaving
him leeway to go either way.
CH3ed :O)
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