offbeat - and must have been discussed- Hogwarts Portkeys

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 144853

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "scamjunk22" <latha272 at i...> wrote:
>
> ....
> 
> We see in GoF that the portkey and the Apparating are used with
> the same purpose ... to transport to some other place. Then, how
> is it that PortKeys work inside the Hogwarts grounds! Isn't it 
> possible then, ... they could have just conjured a portkey and
> come there (Hogwarts)! We have seen a DE conjuring the portkey
> to go out of and  come back into Hogwarts before (GoF)... and 
> from the Ministry to Hogwarts in OotP... so why wasn't it thought
> of?
> 
> regards,
> scam.


bboyminn:

First on the GoF Tri-Wiz Cup Maze Portkey, fandom speculates that the
Tri-Wiz Cup was already a portkey intended to bring the winner from
inside the maze back to the start just outside the maze. Therefore,
Moody only added a new stop to an existing portkey, and it is assumed
that the 'stops' are 'last in; first out'. Meaning that Moody's
stop/destination was activated first taking Harry to the graveyard,
then Dumbledore's stop was activate bring Harry back to Hogwarts to
the original intended destination just outside the maze.

I preface with this information because I want to point out that we
have never seen a Portkey access to or from Hogwarts that wasn't
controlled by Dumbledore. Dumbledore controls the security protecting
Hogwarts, and he futher controls the exceptions or variations in that
security.

Dumbledore made an exception that allowed the Tri-Wiz Cup portkey to
operate at Hogwarts. It never occured to him, that that change in
security would be used against him. Note this is very similar to
Dumbledore making a Great Hall exception that allows student to
practice Apparation within the bounds of the Great Hall. Remember that
the Great Hall Apparation exception was made when security at Hogwarts
was the strictist it's ever been. The general security during GoF was
much more lax, and occured during a long time of assumed peace and safety.

The other Portkey, the one that brought Harry back to Hogwarts after
the battle at the Ministry of Magic, was again controlled by
Dumbledore. He controls the Portkey and he controls the access to
Hogwarts. Once again, he allowed an exception to the security which in
turn allowed Harry to appear in the Headmaster's office. Later
Dumbledore arrived, I believe by Floo Network, again into his own
office. The arrival in both cases was to an area controlled by
Dumbledore. 

Now we can assume this is just an inconsistency in the books, but I
prefer to think that it is simply a matter of Dumbledore controlling
the protection at Hogwarts, and therefore he controls the exceptions
to those protections.

We have never seen a Hogwarts Portkey that Dumbledore did not have
some hand in, and I think that is very significant.

Steve/bboyminn