Why is it significant if LV learns the whole prophecy Re: JKR ITN interview

[dumbledore11214]

No: HPFGUIDX 144858

> Brothergib writes;
> Some time ago, I posted a theory entitled 'Incomplete Prophecy'. 
> Basically, it compared the prophecy we had heard first hand between 
> Harry and Trelawney, and the prophecy DD had relayed to Harry. The 
> first was a completely constructed sentence. If the second 
prophesy, 
> as we heard it, is complete then (1) it has a very different 
> structure from the first and (2) it contains truly atrocious 
English. 
> Considering JKR's previous job as a teacher, I find the second 
point 
> unlikely. 
> 
> IMO, this suggests that DD only let Harry hear certain snippets of 
> the whole prophecy, and that actually the full prophecy provides a 
> huge clue as to how everything will work out. As you said Alla, if 
it 
> is a complete prophecy, then Voldemort gains no extra advantage 
from 
> hearing the prophecy in full!!


Alla:

I really don't have anything to argue against your theory right now, 
except metathinking argument to me it suggests again Master 
Manipulator!Dumbledore and call me stubborn and not seeing something 
which is staring me in the face, but I am not ready to accept that 
kind of Dumbledore yet, probably not till book 7 throws some hard 
cold evidence at me. :)

I mean of course some evidence can be interpreted as such, but I am 
not sure that JKR's intention is to portray master manipulator in the 
Headmaster.

I mean, don't get me wrong, when I argue against manipulative 
Dumbledore I do understand that all politicians , all leaders of the 
fight have to be manipulative to some extent, but to me there is a 
difference between manipulating to win at any cost and trying to make 
people do what you think is right because you indeed have their best 
interests at heart and at least trying to remember that every life is 
valuable.

I think Dumbledore had a good heart, IMO anyway.


Ooops, I ramble I know. Back to the question at hand. Yes, I don't 
see any extra advantage if Voldemort hears about the Prophecy in 
full, but I can see JKR going for the shock value as during the final 
confrontation, whatever it is, Voldemort realizes that one of them 
HAS TO die, but how it all plays out, don't ask me.


As to atrocious English, well, yeah, seems like it, but remember that 
JKR said that herself and Trelaney thought out the Prophecy VERY 
carefully. She did not say that they thought it out in perfect 
English, IMO she meant that she construed the sentences as being in 
tune with the final resolution, whatever it will be and it may be 
that she had to sacrifice the perfect English for a few sentences in 
order to fulfill that goal. I am just speculating of course.


JMO,

Alla