Karmic justice in Potterverse again. WA blood bond between Snape and Dumbledore?
dumbledore11214
dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Sat Dec 17 18:57:54 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 144901
> Pippin:
> I don't think she's *promoting* it any more than she's promoting
> a belief in magic. It's just the way her world works.
Alla:
I am not sure it does at all. Yes, I think that people get what they
deserve or not, but all of them? And children suffering for the sins
of their fathers? I personally doubt it.
Pippin:
> In the same way, if the world was ruled by this tit-for-tat kind
> of justice, you could be sure that everyone who did wrong would
> suffer in some way, and if they happened to die before their
> account was paid, it would land on their children and their
children's
> children.
Alla:
How do you know that James account was not paid before he died?
Snape does not think so, I suppose, but I am not sure karmic justice
will take that into account. James after all did save Snape AND
Snape reported the prophecy to Voldemort which in essensehelped to
get Lily and James killed and are you arguing that after all that
James still did not pay for whatever he did to Snape at school? If
you are arguing it, I disagree and very strongly at that.
Pippin:
> Didn't Hermione set Snape on fire? Rob his office? Doesn't
> Neville's carelessness injure his fellow students and disrupt
> the class? You betcha. Did they *deserve* what
> they got? Cosmic retribution doesn't care. They did it, so they
> pay. Too bad if they're nice people otherwise. JKR may
> enjoy it more when she gets to punish a character she doesn't
> like. But they're not the only ones who get punished.
Alla:
What did Hermione and Neville PARENTS did to Snape? As to what you
described, Hermione was saving Harry's life, so I don't agree that
karmic justice will hit her for that and Neville's carelessness? I
am not sure it WAS carelessness in the first place, but IMO intense
fear of Snape.
In any event, I agree that many nice people get punished, I just
completely disagree that Snape's deeds could be considered
proportional punishment, you know.
Hermione actually WAS punished for robbing Snape stores. She was
turned into a cat, remember? I think THAT was a very proportional
punishment. IMO anyways.
By the way, I don't think that JKR's word is ruled by "tit for tat"
justice, BUT I think that idea of comeuppance IS there and rather
strong too. But for the most part I interpret it as BAD guys
getting their dues AND good guys getting slapped if THEY did
something bad, if possible within the story of course.
Pippin:
> I agree that Snape's fate will be in Harry's hands at some point.
> It will be interesting to see what he does with it.
Alla:
I keep coming back to my older speculation - I think that VERY
fitting punishment will be for Harry to save Snape's life AND for
Snape not being able to repay him. THAT would be nice,IMO of course.
I doubt that JKR will go there, but I certainly would love her too.
JMO,
Alla
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