Karmic justice in Potterverse again. WA blood bond between Snape and Dumbledore?
dumbledore11214
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Sun Dec 18 17:13:14 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 144928
Pippin:
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> James and his friends took advantage of Snape, Snape in
> turn takes advantage of Harry. You want to see someone take
> advantage of Snape, but I don't see any fairness in that,
> only an endless cycle of offense and retribution. I'd like to
> see Harry get off the merry-go-round, not give it another
> spin.
Alla:
Erm... The way you described it, it does sound as endless cicle, but
I don't see Snape being punished first and THEN being forgiven as
taken advantage of, you know, just getting the justice and I am
pretty sure Harry will not giver it another spin, I just think that
before that he will let Snape have it, at least verbally. IMO of
course.
Pippin:
> I understand that you'd like it to be fair. You'd like to have
> James be justified in his treatment of Snape, and Snape so
> evil that he deserves everything that happens to him. I
> just don't think Jo is going there.
Alla:
No, Pippin, from the way you described it, I don't think you do
understand my argument. Sorry! I don't LIKE James to be justified in
his treatment of Snape, I said many many times in itself, Pensieve
scene is incredibly ugly. I don't know how anybody could dispute
that.
What I DO think that it is possible that what James and Co did to
Snape was retribution, not just bullying. Does it make it less
ugly? Sure it does NOT, but is it SO hard to imagine that Snape
used the curses he himself invented on Marauders MANY times which we
have not seen yet and now got what he dished out?
Is it so hard to imagine that Gang of Slytherins used all those
curses on marauders with MUCH more splendind success and when they
all graduated Snape is left alone to deal with Marauders?
I am speculating but it IS canon based speculation IMO.
I am especially puzzled as to your argument that I would LIKE Snape
to be so evil that he deserves what is coming to him? I think canon
right now can support the argument that he IS quite evil and
deserves whatever is coming.
>From Snape mouth we know have the canon that he contributed to the
deaths of two Order Members. We KNOW that he contributed to Potters
deaths. We KNOW that he killed Dumbledore.
Now, of course, you can argue that all of that could be interpreted
as in Snape being good - he did not really contribute to those
deaths, he did not really killed Dumbledore or he killed Dumbledore
because he asked him to, or he killed Dumbledore because he was
nobly saving Harry and Draco, etc,etc,etc.
But I happen to think that the argument of Snape is evil either as
Voldemort servant, or committing those evil deeds to save his own
neck has quite strong support in canon.
Now if he is evil , do I like him being punished? Of course. I said
it many times, I just think that my argument is a bit stronger than
simply " he is going to be punished , because I like him to be evil"
He may not turn out to be evil at the end and all canon that
supports it may turn out to be the red herrings, but I definitely
think that the reasons why he could be evil are a lot more than " I
like him to be".
Just my opinion and my opinion only,
Alla.
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