Future of Snape's Spying
Steve
bboyminn at yahoo.com
Sun Dec 18 19:23:39 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 144940
--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "Ceridwen" <ceridwennight at h...>
wrote:
>
> Sherry:
> > ... But Hagrid is the one person who has always defended Snape
> > to Harry, from the very beginning. Hagrid would also be more
> > likely to believe him, or more inclined to believe him, because
> > Hagrid can't conceive that Dumbledore could possibly be wrong.
> > *(snip)*
> > ...
>
> Ceridwen:
> ...edited...
>
> Hagrid's devotion to Dumbledore would make him a good choice.
> And he has the advantage of being a halfbreed Giant. He is
> looked down on by the DEs, and his talents may be underestimated.
> He also didn't finish school and seems rather 'dumb', or naive,
> so who would guess?
>
> Also, being part giant, he is able to withstand spells, as we saw
> in OotP. While I do believe he's a simple man leading a simple
> life, and he definitely wears his heart on his sleeve, I don't
> think he's incapable of learning Occlumency (his problem in that
> area seems to be loose lips, but maybe those slips weren't as big
> a deal as we've been led to believe?). And, he's had fifty years
> to learn it in, something Hermione at seventeen hasn't had.
>
> ...edited...
>
> Ceridwen.
>
bboyminn:
I was going to comment on Hagrid in my previous post, but I forgot, so
this provides me with the opportunity to add those comments.
You are right, Hargid has absolute trust in Dumbledore, but I don't
see that working in his favor when it comes to Snape. Hagrid has a
near god-like worship and admiration of Dumbledore. Dumbledore saved
him, and gave him hope and purpose when the rest of the wizard world
has shunned and abandon him. He owes everything to Dumbledore, and I
simply can not see him forgiving Dumbledore's murderer so easily.
As I've said in the past even under the best of circumstances, even
with the most favorable and forgivable explanation by Snape for his
action, the wizard world will never forgive him. At some point they
may understand, they may tolerate, but they will never forgive.
And Hagrid, will be at the front of that unforgiving charge. Even if
Snape fully redeems himself, how can Hargid ever forgive him for
ending Dumbledore's life? Even if the final explanation is that
Dumbledore was already dying, how could Hagrid forgive the stealing of
the few precious days or hours that Dumbledore could have been amoung
them? How could he forgive, not being allowed to say a proper goodbye,
and expressing to a dying Dumbledore how much his help to Hagrid had
meant to him?
No, I really see Hagrid as the absolute last person to ever forgive or
trust Snape again. Regardless of Dumbledore's absolute trust in Snape,
Snape ended Dumbledore's life, and no explanation of circumstances can
ever offset that.
So, personally, I can't see Hagrid being Snape's way to leak
information into the Order.
Just a thought.
STeve/bboyminn
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