Who killed Dumbledore? or Not.

[Steve]

No: HPFGUIDX 144945

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "dumbledore11214"
<dumbledore11214 at y...> wrote:
>
> > Alla:
> >  We KNOW that he killed Dumbledore.
> > 
> > Pippin:
> > We know nothing of the sort. Harry is not competent to determine
> > the cause of death, Chosen One or not. He's not even a fully
> > qualified wizard.  Just because everybody believes Harry doesn't
> > make him right. 
> 
> 
> Alla:
> 
> 
> Harry is not competent enough to recognise the words "Avada 
> Kedavra"? ...edited... Harry is not competent enough to see 
> that Dumbledore was dead after Snape's curse hit him?
> 
> If that is what you argue, then of course I have to agree to 
> disagree and leave it at that.
> 
> I think that wizard less competent than Harry would have made
> the same conclusion he did and would be correct.
> 
> Not necessarily about the underlying reasons, but about the 
> factual event, IMO
> 
> JMO of course,
> Alla
>


bboyminn:

I have to agree with Alla, I can speculate and fantasize lots of ideas
and ways in which Dumbledore could still be alive. The one question I
can't answer is 'Why?'. Why would the story go in this direction? What
purpose could it serve? Yes, it would be emotionally pleasing if he
were alive, but I really don't think he is. He was old and his purpose
was served. Like all fictional mentors, he passed too soon, passed
before he could fully educate his protege in the ways of war, magic,
and life. Yet, some things can't be conveyed as information, they only
become ingrained knowledge through self-discovery and revelation.
Self-discovery and revelation are the journey Harry is on now. 

Sad as it is to see him go, I think Dumbledore has served his
fictional purpose as sage and mentor, and it seems pointless to the
logical direction of the plot for Dumbledore to have faked his death.
It also seems a very cruel thing to do. 

Further, if Dumbledore were to fake his death, I'm sure he could come
up with something better that the very illogical and unlikely scenario
at the top of the tower.

Yes, it's fun to speculate on the many possibilities, but ultimately,
I think we need to accept that he is gone. Of course, I will be
delighted if he is not, but I honestly think he is completely and
totally gone from this earth except for his portrait in the
headmaster's office. Any futher wisdom, however sparse it may be, will
come from the last and final remnant of the late great Dumbledore.

One last point, regardless of what we as readers feel, to Harry and
the wizard world, the great Dumbledore is dead; completely, totally,
irrevocably dead.

Just a thought.

Steve/bboyminn