Who killed Dumbledore? WAS: Re: Karmic justice in Potterverse again.

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No: HPFGUIDX 144983

--- In HPforGrownups at yahoogroups.com, "zgirnius" <zgirnius at y...> 
wrote:
>

> Not that several have not been already proposed in the many related
> threads we have had since HBP came out...but:
>
> Snape shows up on the Tower, sees a weakened Dumbledore, and
> interprets his initial plea as a suggestion he come closer and
> Legilimens. He does, but gets nothing much coherent, just some 
vague
> images of Dumbledore apparently in great distress, being fed some
> green potion by Harry. He is repulsed by what he sees. Then
> Dumbledore repeats his plea, and 'the lights go out'. Snape
> recognizes the moment of brain death. Seeing the opportunity to
> establish his bona fides with Voldemort and hide Dumbledore and
> Harry's mysterious activities, Snape casts the Avada Kedavra.
> Dumbledore's dead body is blasted into the air and falls to the
> ground.
>
> I'm not saying this happened, but I see no reason to suppose it
> couldn't have.
>

Orna:

At first I laughed at this scene, nut then I thought you might have 
hit on something – so I wrote an afterthought.

I can well imagine a meeting between Snape and Harry, in which Harry 
outraged (again) accuses Snape of murdering DD, and telling him he 
is going to do to him (whatever). Snape, maliciously telling him – 
let's take another look at the scene – both looking at the pensieve, 
and seeing something in the scene which shows it to be the way you 
described it, and Snape smilingly asking him, who DD's killer is 
now. 

Would fit Snape's character to enjoy this scene – Karmic justice 
etc., and Harry being confronted with his hatred towards Snape 
blinding his abilities. 
But
for some reason, I find it hard to believe. It would feel like 
some dirty trick, unless it was done very convincingly. OTOH, it 
would solve the point of Snape murdering DD. Somehow I feel that 
Snape, as a DDM! killing for some reason or in special circumstances 
DD, is internal to his tragic doom. He might be forgiven, but he 
will never be wholly accepted or liked, which would after all be 
impossible – given his way of relating to people.

An afterthought supporting your wild theory – DD's pleading to Snape 
reminds of his pleading in the cave, when he suffered the impact of 
the potion. Perhaps he was conveying to Snape in this plead the 
nature of the poison which was working on him, or more – perhaps he 
was caught again in the effect of the poison – in fact dropping into 
a sort of delirium again. If so, Snape might be able to remind 
Harry, when he saw DD pleading this way, thereby convincing him that 
DD was beyond help at this stage, and understanding, that either he 
AKed a dead man, or that DD was dying, and going to die in a most 
painful way, hadn't Snape AKed him.

Orna, going to reread the tower scene again.