Comparing the tower and graveyard (Re: Tower Scene from fantasy...)

[Jen Reese]

No: HPFGUIDX 145057

Jen previous:
> Instead of using the life-force of others for his own benefit as
> Voldemort does by taking blood & demanding flesh, Dumbledore is the
> giver of life in many ways, symbolized by his second chances.
> To me the possibility then arises that if Voldemort used old Dark
> Magic to be resurrected and possibly weakened himself in the
> process, Dumbledore might have used ancient magic in his death and
> thus conferred some type of strength to a living being or beings.

> Orna:
> It's interesting, this theory – There are some mirror–components
> in this scene, compared with the GoF resurrection one: 
> 
> There are DE around - watching
> Harry is unable to move
> Snape as DD's servant has some treachery traits – in his past
> (some think in his present), like Wormtail being Voldemort's
> servant – but under (former, future?) obligation to Harry.
> Draco is a spare fellow student – greatly endangered by the scene.
> 
> In contradiction to GoF – the "spare" student is spared and saved 
> by DD's servant, and not killed.
> The servant kills DD, and doesn't resurrect him
> Harry is forced not to intervene, thereby sparing his blood.

Jen: I didn't analyze the two scenes together, but you're right 
there's more than just the juxtaposition of Voldemort and 
Dumbledore. The 'resurrection' taking place in a graveyard and 
the 'murder' taking place on the tallest tower could have symbolic 
significance as well. It seems at least possible both scenes will 
turn out to be other than how they appeared to Harry. Dumbledore's 
gleam indicated that the graveyard meant more than just what Harry's 
eyes observed.

Another contrast: Dumbledore lost his wand when he froze Harry to 
save him. Voldemort lost use of his wand during Priori Incantatem as 
he attempted to kill Harry. 

Orna:
> The servants are very interesting- since they both seem to be very 
> torn about the part they are supposed to do "willfully". They are 
> both traitors in a way. Both of them changed sides, at least once, 
> and do have secret ties to the other side
And both ended up in 
> Spinner's end.

Jen: Snape and Wormtail were thrown together by the author for 
*some* reason. They could both be following the same path--
relunctantly serving sides they have no particular affinity for 
other than saving their own skins. If that's the case, then 
Wormtail's resurrection of Harry's enemy and Snape's murder of his 
greatest protector are meant to be seen in a similar fashion.

I like the idea the two are in opposition though, which would fit if 
the tower scene and graveyard are opposite processes. Wormtail 
appears to resurrect Harry's enemy but his own unwilling flesh and 
Harry's blood undermine the event in some way. Snape appears to 
murder Harry's protector, but instead confers some benefit to him. 

Orna:
> Another thing- Harry's hunt after Snape and Draco and their 
> disappearing beyond the walls, while DE are cursing him, and with 
> Snape escaping, has some muddled echo from GoF, when Harry runs 
> away from Voldemort, feels DE curses after him, hears Voldemort
> shout – he is to be left for him and gets away with Cedric and the
> portkey, at the last second.

Jen: The chase scenes had a very different feel for me. In one Harry 
was the hunted one in an unknown location, with no allies other than 
the ghostly memories. In the other, Harry is Home, surrounded by his 
friends and is the one trying to attack. In the graveyard chase 
Harry knew no one was going to help him and in fact, they were all 
attacking him. In the other, Snape was deflecting his curses and 
warning other DE's away. The two scenes seem to be in contrast.

Orna: 
> I don't know where it leads to, but I found the comparison 
> interesting. I suppose, that's what made you suggest your theory?

Jen: I do like the symmetry. The idea that Voldemort's rebirth and 
Dumbledore's death could be grounded in their opposing magical 
beliefs of dark magic and ancient magic is very appealing. It would 
be the conclusion of a long struggle between them over love magic 
vs. Voldemort's magic. I would love to see Dumbledore's sacrifice in 
death override Voldemort's violent resurrection in some way, showing 
that love magic is more powerful. 

That's what Harry is around for, though :). His love will prove to 
be the defense against Voldemort's magic. But I wouldn't mind if the 
tower had more of a story to it, as the graveyard surely does. 

Jen