The Twins / Ron / Weasleys

[horridporrid03]

No: HPFGUIDX 145065

> >>Geoff:
> > Maybe at this point in time, we can shrug off their antics as 
> > teenage high spirits but I do can see them letting things get   
> > way out of hand at a more serious level if they do not learn to 
> > self-regulate what they are doing in these areas.
> > I shall retire quietly behind the scenery while the GFFC (Gred  
> > and Forge Fan Club) members match by holding things they wish to 
> > throw at me.....

> >>Potioncat:
> The twins are one reason I sometimes remind myself that JKR and I 
> may not be in complete agreement about...oh, life in general. She 
> presents the twins as lovable, adorable teens. And I do think they 
> are adorable. But they are mean. Very mean. And they are reckless 
> to the point of being dangerous. They do have their nice moments 
> too...but their behaviour raises a number of red flags. No wonder 
> Molly fusses at them so much.
> 
> Potioncat, also dodging items from the GFFC.

Betsy Hp:
Can I join in? (I think we're enough to build a pretty big fort to 
protect against the slings and arrows of the GFFC. Then we can have 
s'mores! <g>)

I think it's strange that two of the older businesses on Diagon 
Alley have been closed by either Death Eater attacks or threats (at 
least as it appears on the surface) and yet Fred and George, with 
their U-No-Poo signs are still in business and, you know, alive.  
There's a suggestion that they may be selling their battle 
merchandise to both sides. (Draco certainly benefited from 
their "back room" products.)  Could they be war profiteers?  Or 
worse?  ::ominous music swells::

> >>meriaugust:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HPforGrownups/message/144982
> 5. <snip>
> The twins' comments that Ron has told them a lot about
> Ginny's relationships indicates that he is close with them, despite
> the fact that they live over the shop. Would you have expected the
> three of them to be close due to all the torment they have given  
> him over the last sixteen years?

Betsy Hp:
Does this mean Fred and George are close to Ron or does it mean the 
twins use him as their information source?  Ron is generally pretty 
intimidated by the twins.  He hates confronting them (refuses to do 
it a few times in OotP, IIRC), and I think he hates refusing them.  
If they asked him about Ginny, he'd tell them.

But their overall relationship with Ron seems awfully 
confrontational.  When Ron is three and Fred is five or six, Fred 
turns Ron's teddy bear into a spider using the accidental magic of 
children, which indicates a pretty large surge of rather negative 
emotion, I'd think.  Around that same age, maybe a little older, 
Fred bludgeons Ron's pet to death.  And both Fred and George try and 
put Ron under a Unbreakable Vow, which would mean Ron's death if he 
broke whatever they were making him vow.

By the time Ron is at school, he's pretty good at submitting to the 
twins, or at least staying out of their way, and they take most of 
their aggression out on Percy.  But I don't sense any real closeness 
there.  Ron is a few steps away from becoming their enemy, and I 
think he knows it and does what he can to keep that from occuring.

Actually, I think there's a schism running through the Weasley 
family, with Arthur, Ron and Percy on one side, and Molly, the 
twins, and now, unfortunately, Ginny, on the other. (I've no idea 
where Bill or Charlie fall.  They may do their best to remain 
uninvolved.)  It's not a horribly destructive schism for the most 
part.  Molly and Arthur seem to have grown comfortable with it.  But 
I think it's what caused them to lose Percy, and I think it's what 
caused the twins to grow up so wild.

[Some good essays on the Weasley family can be found at Redhen 
Publications.  Though I've not read the revised versions yet (makes 
note to do so), they've influenced my thinking, so similar notes may 
have been struck.
http://www.redhen-publications.com/Weasleys.html
http://www.redhen-publications.com/Molly.html
http://www.redhen-publications.com/PercyandMama.html ]


Betsy Hp (who also thinks there's a similarity between the Weasleys 
and the Bennetts of "Pride and Prejudice" fame)