Friendly and cheerful DE/The Twins and Ron

dumbledore11214 dumbledore11214 at yahoo.com
Wed Dec 21 01:07:55 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 145070

> > >>Alla:
> > Well, yes, that is how I also read Va32h point - BUT I think 
that 
> > it is VERY interesting that so far we had NOT seen friendly 
and   
> > cheerful DE in the series and I mean as in "real friendly"
> > I interpret it as JKR treating "being nice to other people" 
as    
> > virtue and not assigning it to Death Eaters. Simplistic - 
maybe,   
> > but quite telling to me. 
> 
> Betsy Hp:
> What about Barty?  Fake!Moody that is.  He wasn't all that 
cheerful, 
> (unless he was physically abusing the children of people he 
> disliked) but he was friendly.  In fact, I think Harry would have 
> described him as quite a good friend up until the end of GoF.  At 
> the very least Fake!Moody was nice to Harry.


Alla:

I am not sure if Va32h meant " real friendly" DE, but I certainly 
did. So, no I don't think that Barty Jr. was friendly and nice to 
Harry, because as we found out he was participating  in  preparing 
his kidnapping and murder. Have we seen DE genuinely happy towards 
people, helping anybody for once?

Have we ever heard Malfoy Sr. laugh? Not maliciously smile at 
Arthur, but laugh normally? Have we ever seen Bella show some kind 
of love towards Narcissa , actually scratch that, some argued that 
she showed it in Spinner's end, but even though I agree that her 
insane self was at the most normalcy at Spinner's End, I don't think 
that saying that if she had sons she would give them all to Dark 
Lord ( paraphrase) counts as showing love and caring towards her 
sister. Have we ever seen Bella showing normal Friendly feelings 
towards anybody else?



Betsy Hp:
<SNIP>
 And both Fred and George try and 
> put Ron under a Unbreakable Vow, which would mean Ron's death if 
he 
> broke whatever they were making him vow.

Alla:

Are you arguing that they wanted Ron to die?

 Betsy Hp:
<SNIP>
Ron is a few steps away from becoming their enemy, and I 
> think he knows it and does what he can to keep that from occuring.

Alla:

How do you know that Ron is about to become twins' enemy?

JMO,

Alla







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