Heroes and Not - What should Snape Have Done?

M.Clifford Aisbelmon at hotmail.com
Thu Dec 22 21:40:53 UTC 2005


No: HPFGUIDX 145223


> > bboyminn:
> > point blank, what should
> > Snape have done under those circumstances? <snip> Snape dies and 
> > THEN.... What? What happens next, <snip>
> > 

> Alla answered and wrote:
> 
> Did I answer your question?

Valky:
I can't speak for Steve Alla, but IMO you gave an excellent answer,
your point is well taken with the exception of one thing. 

Alla wrote:
<snip>
> All that Lily wanted was for Harry to live and we KNOW that she was 
> offered a chance to live and we KNOW that she was not planning any 
> convoluted charms before her death to give Harry power.
> 
> Her sacrifice in itself turned to be the ACTION, which gave Harry 
> protection.
> 
> Do I expect Snape to act the same way for Dumbledore? Sure I do. 
> After all Dumbledore was the one who saved him from the hell of 
> Azkaban. Yep, I do expect Snape to put his life on the line for him.

Valky:
Oho! Alla. <beg> I am going tyo ask you a question. Did *you* really,
(what was that word you used, oh yeah) *expect* DD!M*Snape* to make a
sacrifice comparable to Lily and James sacrifice?

What I mean is that once long ago you and I were very much a pigeon
pair on the same page when it came to Severus Snape. IIRC, neither of
us would have under any circumstances, then, *expected* /Snape/ to die
trying, no matter what his loyalty. Hence I wonder why you would place
that expectation on him now. 

This is my rub with HBP!Snape essentially, you have really hit it on
the head, I was sure he would be revealed as a nasty kid
(Sectumsempra), I was sure he was the Hogshead eavesdropper (Correct),
I was sure that Snape would act in a calculating and self-preserving
manner under almost any circumstances (Proved too), BUT I never
believed, nor do I now believe, that we could ever expect Snape to act
saintly good or demonically evil. You see, my biggest rub with
ESE!Snape in the tower scene is that it assumes Severus Snape is
capable of acting one or both of those two ways. Snape?!

Perhaps I was wrong, perhaps we were not actually on the same page
there Alla, but pre HBP I would have said Alla wouldn't believe Snape
could kill Dumbledore. <g> Did anyone pre HBP think he could do that?
Given a list of the awful things Severus *could* do in HBP, I know
many of us wouldn't hesitate to choose one from the list, but would
any of those of us have chosen 'killing Dumbledore' from that list? I
know I wouldn't have.

Does that make me stubborn? Perhaps. But I have a pretty good track
record behind me on Snape, I am not so sure that I am wrong. ;)


Valky
Who thinks that seeing Snape for what he is means not assuming he
could do what Lily and James did, he just isn't *that* good. 









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