Heroes and Not - What should Snape Have Done?.
eggplant107
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Fri Dec 23 21:42:19 UTC 2005
No: HPFGUIDX 145288
h2so3f" <h2so3f at y...> wrote:
> If the UV kicks in the moment Snape
> turns his wand on the DEs to refuse
> to complete the UV (complete Draco's
> mission) it is very possible Snape'd
> just drop dead then and there.
And if that happened the fault would be 100% Snape's for making that
idiotic vow in the first place. There is no way that vow can excuse
Snape's despicable actions, he's the one who made it!
> I'd say the worse thing Snape could
> have done is to not only kill DD,
> but also doing in Harry as well.
Irrelevant, Snape had no way of knowing Harry was anywhere in the
vicinity.
> Or if he dies defending DD (who then
> dies anyway, having no wand and
> no cure for the cave potion)
Irrelevant, Snape had no way of knowing (nor do we) if Dumbledore was
dieing or not, or if Dumbledore took the potion, or that that potion
even existed, or that the cave existed for that matter.
> It is easy to romanticize a dashing
> heroic act like Snape dropping dead
> from the UV
If that had happened it would not be dashing heroic or romantic, it
would be squalid. Snape would still be a brainless fool for making
that vow and thus it would still be a humiliating way to die, but it
would be less dishonorable than murdering Dumbledore.
> Even if LV did order him not to kill
> Harry, Snape could have probably
> getaway with doing so since Harry
> was forcing a fight
If Snape had killed Harry (assuming he wanted to and he did not) Snape
would be dead meat, no question. It's not difficult to figure out why
Voldemort gave strict orders for his Death Eaters NOT to kill Harry.
Voldemort tried to kill Harry 5 times and failed 5 times, if Snape had
managed to kill Harry where his master had failed people might start
to say "why should I follow Voldemort, I'll follow Snape instead". I
don't think Voldemort would like that much. Voldemort would get
medieval on Snape's ass.
spotsgal" <Nanagose at a...> wrote:
> The key question for me isn't why Snape
> killed Dumbledore- it's why Snape took
> the UV in the first place. In my mind,
> everybody (ESE, DDM, and OFH) needs to
> explain why Snape took it, because none
> of the three options affords an
> obvious explanation
If would make perfect sense for Snape to make that vow if he was only
vowing to do what he already had every intention of doing anyway; kill
Dumbledore. In fact he may have only been repeating a vow he had
already made to Voldemort.
I believe Snape made another unbreakable vow 15 years ago to
Dumbledore and that's why Dumbledore trusted him; Snape vowed to do
everything he could to protect the life of Harry Potter. Snape wants
to be the greatest wizard in the world but 2 wizards stand in his way.
One of them is Dumbledore and that's why it was so easy for him to vow
to kill him. The other wizard is Voldemort. Snape is one of only two
people who have heard the ENTIRE prophesy, although he only told
Voldemort the first half. Snape knows Harry is the only one who has a
chance of killing Voldemort so he is determined to protect him until
he can accomplish that mission.
It seems to me that if you are determined to make Snape a good guy you
must also accept that the man is also a moron who makes Hagrid look
like Einstein. However if Snape is a very smart guy as I think he is
then the above theory is the only one I can think of that fits the
facts. Snape is out for himself, for 15 years both Dumbledore and
Voldemort thought Snape was a spy working for them, and both were wrong.
Eggplant
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